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Linda Threadgill <[log in to unmask]>
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Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history." <[log in to unmask]>
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I really haven't been paying much attention to this thread, but since 
someone mentioned Washington Co., PA, I thought I would contribute my 2 
cents. I have the Curry name in my family from Fayette Co., PA. They were 
one of the families on the UGRR. Their home was on or near Baker's Alley in 
Uniontown. Not far from their home is an historical marker about the UGRR. 
They are members of one of the oldest Black churches in Uniontown. I have 
some info somewhere on the family. They are not one of my direct family 
lines so I would have to find me info. My family that they connect to are 
the Thomases from Fauquier Co who were FPOC.
Linda

-----Original Message----- 
From: Quan Arnett-Pruitt
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 3:07 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] Mack Curry

If you look at the census he is not the only black family living between 
white families. This is not unusual even before slavery ended. There are 
white Curry families in the area. There are a lot of variables to consider. 
You have to read the laws and the history of the county. His and her last 
owner could of let them work or sell items and keep the money. Yes he had 
property and money. He saved and he bought his home or rented. This is not 
unusual after slavery ended.

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> On Nov 7, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Hilary Derby 
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon!
> You may want to Google the following:
> "free black African Americans, Port Republic, Virginia, history"
>
> There were slave owners in Virginia, 1853-1865 with the surname "Curry and
> Currie" in the following counties:
> Curry:  Rockbridge, Chesterfield, Mecklenburg, Henrico, Gloucester
> Currie: Lancaster
>
> Contact the local Historical Society and the Genealogical Society.
>
> Unknown No Longer:  A Database of Virginia Slave Names.
> <http://unknownnolonger.vahistorical.org/>  There are two Currie names
> listed in this database.  Did not check for McCurry or MacCurry, etc.
>
> Let us know if you find the family!
>
> Hilary
>
>
>
>
> *Hilary G. Derby, Ph.D.*
>
> *Tree Branches Unlimited,  LLC, *
> *Member, Association of Professional Genealogists*
>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Quan Arnett-Pruitt <[log in to unmask]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm assuming that this is a family member you are searching for.  I 
>> always
>> follow the money.
>> Maybe this will help.  Slavery ended in 1865.  Former slaves will show up
>> in the 1870 or 1880 census for the first time.  If you could not find him
>> in the 1860 or earlier census or city directories with him or her listed 
>> as
>> a FPOC (free person of color) then most likely he was not.
>>
>> As an African American research genealogy you will hit a brick wall at
>> some point usually 1870.  We don’t just run a family tree on our family 
>> but
>> also on the possible or last owner to find information.  So there is the
>> possibility you might run a lot on just one family alone.  Some last 
>> names
>> where given by the military or they just picked a last name based on
>> anything.  Some took the last owners name or the name of some past owner.
>>  Now you have to find who the last owner was for clues to more 
>> information.
>>
>> To get pass the brick wall you will have to:
>> 1 take clues in your oral history
>> 2 Eliminate the obvious last name.  Curry by running a family tree on the
>> family to see what slaves they owned, wills and etc.
>> 3 check the freeman bank for clues
>> 4 USCT
>> 5 court records- Deeds, wills, sales, mortgages, dowers, partitions and
>> etc.
>> 6 change your thinking to the 1800's
>> 7 Find his death record.  Sometimes it will list his parents name but 
>> most
>> just have unknow.
>>
>> Slaves are value/money.  You will have to follow the money trail.
>> You will have to always think of where is the money and how do I hide the
>> money and how to make and keep the money.
>>
>> I check some things on Ancestry and found that they are not listed before
>> 1870.  Also you might want to check  a couple areas in your search 
>> Mongolia
>> VA and Washington PA.  It would seem as if they or the children moved
>> there.  Also someone has started a tree on this family and they might be
>> able to help you and each other on this search.  Maybe a new cousin.
>>
>> Good Luck
>> Quan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history.
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Madaline Preston
>> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 8:40 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] Mack Curry
>>
>> Exactly, now did Mack become a free black?  I haven't found anything on
>> Ancestry prior to the 1870 census for Mack and wife, Miranda.
>> m. preston
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Selma Stewart < 0000000da5e72097-dmarc-
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> The question is have you located Mack Curry in any of the census
>>> records prior to 1870 such as 1860 and 1850..identified by name..this
>>> would mean he would have been classified as a "Free Black".  At that
>>> point you would have to determine how he became Free..either by birth
>>> (meaning his mother was
>>> Free) or emancipated by Will or Deed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you found him identified by name on a census or any other records
>>> prior to 1865.
>>>
>>>
>>> Selma Stewart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: VA-ROOTS <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2016 3:59 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] Mack Curry
>>>
>>> By the 1870 and 1880 censuses, all African Americans were free.
>>>
>>>
>>> My email address has changed to [ [log in to unmask] ](
>> mailto:
>>> [log in to unmask] ).  Please update your records accordingly.
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>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Madaline Preston" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 1:31pmTo: [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>>
>>> Subject: [VA-ROOTS] Mack CurryMack Curry, born 1824, and wife Miranda
>>> are listed on the 1870 census forPort Republic, Virginia.
>>> Blacks....living between mostly white familieson a street.By 1880 he
>>> was a land owner in Ashby District, Rockingham County.Mr. Curry must
>> have been a free black.
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