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Herbert Barger <[log in to unmask]>
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Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history." <[log in to unmask]>
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As a Jefferson Family Historian who assisted Dr. E.A. Foster with the
Jefferson-Hemings DNA Study of 1998 may I please offer the following
information regarding DNA as it applied to that study.

DNA disproved that ANY Jefferson fathered Tom Woodson......NO match. There
was a match between SOME Jefferson DNA and that of a representative of Eston
Hemings, son of Sally Hemings. WITHOUT sufficient family history records to
add to the equation, the study would prove worthless. 

The reason there WAS a match for the Jefferson and Hemings DNA was because
Dr Foster tested a KNOWN carrier of the Jefferson DNA, as ALWAYS claimed by
the Eston Hemings family that they descend from "A JEFFERSON UNCLE OR
NEPHEW, meaning TJ's much younger brother, Randolph. There was a match and
as orally claimed there was a match automatically. I highly recommended to
Dr Foster to inform Nature of this BUT he refused and thus, everyone was
told by Nature that "Jefferson Fathered Slave's Last Child." 

So please use accurate family genealogy along with the science of DNA
otherwise some innocent person may be charged as in the Jefferson case.
NOTHING proved THOMAS Jefferson fathered any slave child.

Herb Barger
Jefferson Family Historian



     



-----Original Message-----
From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carole D. Bryant
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:42 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA Evidence

Don't be too quick to accuse your husband's ancestors !
Neither "paper" nor DNA is without fault ! ! ! !  One little false  
assumption .... and you may have damaged the reputation of an innocent
forefather.
 
Carole Dodson Bryant
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/19/2009 3:25:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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We can  trace my husband on paper back to one George Phillips, sea captain 
on the  Pamunkey in Virginia in 1680.  However, when my husband had his DNA

tested for a lark, he came back as a Fitzhugh.  The definitive biography  
of William Fitzhugh the Immigrant back in the 1600s gives the information 
that  William Fitzhugh used one George Phillips as his sea captain to ship
his  
tobacco to London.  The book includes several letters Fitzhugh wrote to  
Phillips.  It also explains that Fitzhugh enjoyed socializing with his  sea 
captains and their families.  

We'll never be able to  prove it, but it looks to us like William Fitzhugh 
socialized just a little  too closely with Mrs. George Phillips, possibly 
while her husband was at sea  with his tobacco!  We would never have known 
without the DNA  test.

Sally Phillips

--- On Thu, 8/13/09, Al Adams  <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


From: Al Adams  <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS]  Faris/Farris
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Thursday, August 13,  2009, 11:12 AM


Trueman,

I believe that you will find that  many who have had their DNA tested are
in the same situation.

There  are a few in our DNA group who are Adams, and we all descend from
Robert  Adams of Goochland, VA (c1685-1740).  There are several identical
DNA  matches who descend from a Gilley in the early 1700's.  We  certainly
have a common ancestor about 1600- 1700. We don't know if we are  all
Adams or all Gilley's.

There were many adoptions, children taken  in by families and quite a few
accidental or not so accidental  children.

One thing that I am pretty sure of, DNA does not believe in  family lore.

Al Adams  

-----Original Message-----
From:  Tarter, Brent (LVA) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Thursday,  August 13, 2009 10:56 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject:  [VA-ROOTS] Faris/Farris

Hello, all.
DNA has uncovered a similar  situation with my ancestor, George M. 
Faris/Farris, who according to  Census reports was born about 1769 in 
Virginia, county unknown. My DNA  test matches that of no Farris listed
to 
date.
A lady has told me  that her brother's DNA indicates that he is a
Morris,. 
Yet his DNA  matches more than 30 of my markers. So am I a Farris or a  
Morris?
HELP!
Trueman Farris   [log in to unmask]


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