As a Jefferson Family Historian who assisted Dr. E.A. Foster with the Jefferson-Hemings DNA Study of 1998 may I please offer the following information regarding DNA as it applied to that study. DNA disproved that ANY Jefferson fathered Tom Woodson......NO match. There was a match between SOME Jefferson DNA and that of a representative of Eston Hemings, son of Sally Hemings. WITHOUT sufficient family history records to add to the equation, the study would prove worthless. The reason there WAS a match for the Jefferson and Hemings DNA was because Dr Foster tested a KNOWN carrier of the Jefferson DNA, as ALWAYS claimed by the Eston Hemings family that they descend from "A JEFFERSON UNCLE OR NEPHEW, meaning TJ's much younger brother, Randolph. There was a match and as orally claimed there was a match automatically. I highly recommended to Dr Foster to inform Nature of this BUT he refused and thus, everyone was told by Nature that "Jefferson Fathered Slave's Last Child." So please use accurate family genealogy along with the science of DNA otherwise some innocent person may be charged as in the Jefferson case. NOTHING proved THOMAS Jefferson fathered any slave child. Herb Barger Jefferson Family Historian -----Original Message----- From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carole D. Bryant Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:42 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA Evidence Don't be too quick to accuse your husband's ancestors ! Neither "paper" nor DNA is without fault ! ! ! ! One little false assumption .... and you may have damaged the reputation of an innocent forefather. Carole Dodson Bryant In a message dated 8/19/2009 3:25:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: We can trace my husband on paper back to one George Phillips, sea captain on the Pamunkey in Virginia in 1680. However, when my husband had his DNA tested for a lark, he came back as a Fitzhugh. The definitive biography of William Fitzhugh the Immigrant back in the 1600s gives the information that William Fitzhugh used one George Phillips as his sea captain to ship his tobacco to London. The book includes several letters Fitzhugh wrote to Phillips. It also explains that Fitzhugh enjoyed socializing with his sea captains and their families. We'll never be able to prove it, but it looks to us like William Fitzhugh socialized just a little too closely with Mrs. George Phillips, possibly while her husband was at sea with his tobacco! We would never have known without the DNA test. Sally Phillips --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Al Adams <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Al Adams <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] Faris/Farris To: [log in to unmask] Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 11:12 AM Trueman, I believe that you will find that many who have had their DNA tested are in the same situation. There are a few in our DNA group who are Adams, and we all descend from Robert Adams of Goochland, VA (c1685-1740). There are several identical DNA matches who descend from a Gilley in the early 1700's. We certainly have a common ancestor about 1600- 1700. We don't know if we are all Adams or all Gilley's. There were many adoptions, children taken in by families and quite a few accidental or not so accidental children. One thing that I am pretty sure of, DNA does not believe in family lore. Al Adams -----Original Message----- From: Tarter, Brent (LVA) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:56 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [VA-ROOTS] Faris/Farris Hello, all. DNA has uncovered a similar situation with my ancestor, George M. Faris/Farris, who according to Census reports was born about 1769 in Virginia, county unknown. My DNA test matches that of no Farris listed to date. A lady has told me that her brother's DNA indicates that he is a Morris,. Yet his DNA matches more than 30 of my markers. So am I a Farris or a Morris? HELP! Trueman Farris [log in to unmask] To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html