Madaline Preston wrote:
> I admit patience isn't one of my virtues but I've spent way too much time
> trying to find an ancestor on a social security death index that is a
> free index, not one that is advertised as free until they search, find a
> match and then tell you you have to be a member to view the data.
>
> In 2003 I went to ssdi.rootsweb.com, put in the state and the last name of
> my ancestry line and up would pop all the data.  Of course all of this now
> belongs to Ancestry which is another sore subject.  (They can take a simple
> data base and present it in a way to involve the maximum time spent in a
> search.)
>
> I'm looking for Fred (Frederick) J. Quirin born 21 Jul 1893 in Brooklyn,
> NY.  His WWII registration card, dated 27 April, 1942 states he worked in
> the 11th District Chicago Police Dept. (91st and Cottage Grove, Chicago) and
> gives his home address as 7921 Indiana Ave, Chicago.  You'd think this info
> would be sufficient to find the lad.
>
> What have I missed?  Is there a site such as my 2003 find that will give you
> his death date without belonging to one more "free" site?
>
> All I want is his death date.
>
> Thanks for listening to my rant.  I hope you will have the wisdom to put me
> on the right track.
> M. Preston
>
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It is important to remember you will not find everyone in the SSDI.   It 
does not include anyone who got the benefit prior to the computerization 
of the Social Security records.

The original Social Security law did not cover public employees, the 
military, the self employed, farmers,  members of religious orders, and 
employees of some non profits.  Public employees would include people 
who worked for the Post Office.  All of these groups are now covered.  
But if you are looking for people born between 1900 and 1930 it is 
possible that they would not be insured.

Also you will not find anyone who did not have enough quarters to be 
insured when they died.   You need 40 quarters now.   People born 
between 1900 and 1929 needed have their birth year plus 11, so someone 
born in 1911 would need 22.  People born prior to 1897 were covered 
differently.  There was also something called Prouty (named after the 
sponsor) benefits. .    You had to be 72 before 1969 and have 6 quarters 
of coverage. There are a couple of other ways to get Prouty benefits.  
Coverage appears to have included the SSDI.

So it possible that Mr. Quirin would not be included because of a date 
of death prior to the 1970s and his work for the Chicago Police Dept.

M Jackson

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