Using the information that you provided from the Augusta County Cohabitation Register and the information provided about Miranda's maiden being given as "BROWN"..I took a look at Volume 1 (A-C) of the 5 volume VA Slave Birth Index published in 2007. It is compilation of the Slave Births that were recorded along with the Births of others in the county in the Birth Registers that began in 1853. It is likely that not all births for everyone was reported at that time.
This book is INDEXED by the name of the INFORMANT who was giving the information to the clerk, this person in most cases was the OWNER but not always. There are 4 categories in the INDEX: Informant's Surname, Informant First name, Slave's Name (child), Mother's name, Date of Birth, Place of Birth. The name of Child is not always given, the name of the Mother is not always given, nor the exact date of birth.
The name of the Father for enslaved children's births is rarely if ever given...because for these children this is not a record of Paternity but of OWNERSHIP.
Taking all that into mind and looking at the names of the children who appeared on the 1870 census whose births took place in 1853 or after and looked for an INFORMANT/OWNER with the surname BROWN living in Albemarle County who listed the name of the mother as MIRANDA and found one HORACE BROWN as the Informant (possible owner) reporting the following births:
Brown, Horace, male; Myranda; Aug 1855, Albemarle
Brown, Horace, Andre Lee; Marinda; Sept 1854, Albemarle
Brown, Horace, Elbridge, Miranda; Aug 1857, Albemarle
Brown, Horace; Howard, Miranda, August 10, 1861, Albemarle
Brown, Horace; James; Miranda; Jul 1859, Albemarle
Remember that this is only an INDEX and it would be best to look at the actual birth register to see what other information was given. I would also suggest that you look for the Death Register which also began in 1853 for Augusta County to see what information might be provided.
Selma Stewart
-----Original Message-----
From: Madaline Preston <[log in to unmask]>
To: VA-ROOTS <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 15, 2016 1:01 pm
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] Mack Curry
Wonderful....thank you for the tip on LoV. Found Mac Curry in the Register
of Colored Person - Augusta Co in 1866. Born Albemarle Co, living in New
Hope, married to Elizabeth Brown, age 29, also of Albemarle Co. Names of
children line up.
But...there appears to be a line drawn thru Elizabeth's name on 1880 census
and occupation is noted as prisoner. ???? *All other info *on Mac gives
his wife as Miranda. Need to figure this one out. Transcriber for
Ancestry did not list Elizabeth in data on family. Now what? Need black
marriage records, probably for Albemarle Co around 1844 + or Rockingham
Co.
What I need to know is .... how was this Register's data gathered. Door to
door like in the census or did they have to go register somewhere?
If there is no Last Owner noted did this necessarily mean they were free
born?
Appreciate all the emails....every bit helps.
m
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Janice <0000000ed930f4a2-dmarc-
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> The LVA has been processing a collection of papers relating to slavery and
> ownership. Those few that I worked on (as a volunteer transcriptionist)
> included a couple of account books of traders' routes, giving travel route,
> names of the slaves and family members (if sold together), former owners
> and purchases/expenses per slave by name, incurred by the trader during the
> trip. They may yet have materials untranscribed but available to the
> volunteers online as photocopies of the originals. The collection is worth
> checking out.
>
> Janice Armstrong
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quan Arnett-Pruitt <[log in to unmask]>
> To: VA-ROOTS <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Mon, Nov 7, 2016 12:50 pm
> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] Mack Curry
>
> I'm assuming that this is a family member you are searching for. I always
> follow the money.
> Maybe this will help. Slavery ended in 1865. Former slaves will show up
> in the 1870 or 1880 census for the first time. If you could not find him
> in the 1860 or earlier census or city directories with him or her listed as
> a FPOC (free person of color) then most likely he was not.
>
> As an African American research genealogy you will hit a brick wall at
> some point usually 1870. We don’t just run a family tree on our family but
> also on the possible or last owner to find information. So there is the
> possibility you might run a lot on just one family alone. Some last names
> where given by the military or they just picked a last name based on
> anything. Some took the last owners name or the name of some past owner.
> Now you have to find who the last owner was for clues to more information.
>
> To get pass the brick wall you will have to:
> 1 take clues in your oral history
> 2 Eliminate the obvious last name. Curry by running a family tree on the
> family to see what slaves they owned, wills and etc.
> 3 check the freeman bank for clues
> 4 USCT
> 5 court records- Deeds, wills, sales, mortgages, dowers, partitions and
> etc.
> 6 change your thinking to the 1800's
> 7 Find his death record. Sometimes it will list his parents name but most
> just have unknow.
>
> Slaves are value/money. You will have to follow the money trail.
> You will have to always think of where is the money and how do I hide the
> money and how to make and keep the money.
>
> I check some things on Ancestry and found that they are not listed before
> 1870. Also you might want to check a couple areas in your search Mongolia
> VA and Washington PA. It would seem as if they or the children moved
> there. Also someone has started a tree on this family and they might be
> able to help you and each other on this search. Maybe a new cousin.
>
> Good Luck
> Quan
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Madaline Preston
> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 8:40 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] Mack Curry
>
> Exactly, now did Mack become a free black? I haven't found anything on
> Ancestry prior to the 1870 census for Mack and wife, Miranda.
> m. preston
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Selma Stewart <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> > The question is have you located Mack Curry in any of the census
> > records prior to 1870 such as 1860 and 1850..identified by name..this
> > would mean he would have been classified as a "Free Black". At that
> > point you would have to determine how he became Free..either by birth
> > (meaning his mother was
> > Free) or emancipated by Will or Deed.
> >
> >
> > Have you found him identified by name on a census or any other records
> > prior to 1865.
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> >
> > Selma Stewart
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> > Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2016 3:59 pm
> > Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] Mack Curry
> >
> > By the 1870 and 1880 censuses, all African Americans were free.
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> > Thank you! Leslie Anderson, MSLSReference LibrarianAlexandria
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Madaline Preston" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 1:31pmTo: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> > Subject: [VA-ROOTS] Mack CurryMack Curry, born 1824, and wife Miranda
> > are listed on the 1870 census forPort Republic, Virginia.
> > Blacks....living between mostly white familieson a street.By 1880 he
> > was a land owner in Ashby District, Rockingham County.Mr. Curry must
> have been a free black.
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