>Now if I could rearrange my schedule to go down to
>Richmond (I don't think the ILL exchange works cross-state).

Katie - I order ILL films from Lib. of VA at Richmond all the time - I live
in Oregon. That's the whole point of the ILL system - that you can get
things from very far away! Just go to your local library, fill out their
ILL form with all the info from the Lib. of VA catalog, and specify on the
form that these items are at the Lib. of VA in Richmond. It may take 2-4
weeks for the films to arrive, but they will eventually! Oh, make sure your
library has a microfilm reader first!

--Holly


>Katie Holland
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>Date:    Sat, 7 Dec 2002 10:31:08 -0600
>From:    [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Note for AOL.COM users
>
>Very recently I had sent directly by attachment, whatever I had on the
>TODD family to someone on this list who has an aol.com addy.  Routinely I
>ask that aol users let me know if they receive whatever I send.  [This of
>course is silly because if they didn't receive the reply in the first
>place -  how would they know to rsvp? ...aol.com does not release so much
>as a semi-courteous automagic "bounce" notice to let anyone on either end
>know.
>
>When aol.com gets snotty (which is often) it will arbitrarily reject all
>further communication from other usually 'private' servers, yes
>*Servers*. ISPs, everything from the WHOLE server is blocked like my
>netwurx.net which I use to send an attachment rather than this juno.com
>mailbox. Why this is so I have no idea, maybe another screwball attempt
>to corner the market,  but if any of you are so unfortunate as to have to
>depend on aol.com, don't.
>
>They will claim it's to protect their customers from Viruii or some such
>nonsense but don't believe it - the only rare viruses I've ever gotten is
> From aol addies. [Clearly if viruses eat up data - aol.com itself is a
>virus perpetrated on the public]
>
>Please keep that in mind and find a way to reconnect with anyone you feel
>surprised at suddenly not hearing from again,
>'specially if it's me. <iii  iiii>
>Cynthia, befuxterated this morning
>
>Oh PS and Do use Virus protection like Norton Anti-Virus or something on
>your machines and Don't open any attachments from folks who don't, even
>if they're friends & family - especially if they're friends and family.
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>Date:    Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:02:51 EST
>From:    Janet Hunter <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Note for AOL.COM users
>
>Cynthia and All,
>
>AOL also gives account holders the option to block all attachments.  Have you
>asked your correspondent at AOL, whether they have chosen that option,
>perhaps inadvertently.   I correspond with several Juno users, with no
>problem.  I do have a couple of AOL correspondents who have chosen that
>option, and I simply break up attachments in smaller bits and paste in a
>succession of messages.  Have you tried sending the same  or a smaller
>attachment from Juno to that recipient as a control?
>
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>Date:    Sat, 7 Dec 2002 12:33:27 -0600
>From:    [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Note for AOL.COM users
>
>Cynthia here, blushing. Folding up her little portable podium and exiting
>stage. I just received an incoming "got it" from the TODD/CLAYTON
>researchers in the same stroke of hitting SEND on the warning to aol
>users.  [Geeze, now I suppose if the other couple respond, I will have to
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>Date:    Sat, 7 Dec 2002 16:10:11 -0500
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>Subject: Mecklenburg 1790 Personal Property Tax Lists A and B images
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>Date:    Sat, 7 Dec 2002 22:57:06 EST
>From:    Janet Hunter <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: New Thoughts -- Bentleys, Southside VA - Many surnames
>
>Hello Everyone (apologies in advance for multiple postings),
>
>Surnames:  Allgood, Amos, Anderson, Archer, Bentley, Booker, Cobbs,
>Efford,=20=
>=20
>Ellis, Gay, Hammock, Hammond, Inge, Owen, Saunders, Spicer, Trent, Turpin,=20
>Vaughan, Weldon, Winston, Womack.
>
>NOTE:  This is long, is intended to be informational, and reflects my views=20
>and those of many but not all (yet) Bentley researchers, as of December 6,=20
>2002,  as a result of recent investigations..  This does NOT itemize all the=
>=20
>still unknown question marks, mysteries, certain possibly implied court=20
>record connections, several unplaced Bentleys showing in parish registers &=20
>court records, unknown wives for even the specific Bentleys below in our=20
>limited geographical purview.  There is in addition a wealth of early Bentle=
>y=20
>records still to be examined, especially Fluvanna and counties north of the=20
>James River between and a little bit inland of the James, the York,=20
>Rappahanock and Potomac Rivers, that hopefully will tie all the below=20
>together and get us back to the 1600s.  We think they are all (or most all)=20
>probably related.   To present the documentation for  just the conclusions=20
>here would take about 25 pages. I am happy to provide documentation and/or=20
>references to other researchers, or background.  Most of the "good stuff"=20
>isn't my direct line.  I am it seems the only one of us addicted to genealog=
>y=20
>mailing lists .  Our primary forum for communication is Bentley genforum (se=
>e=20
>#2871 at genealogy.genforum.com/bentley for Richmond Co. info), where I dail=
>y=20
>wipe egg off my face.
>
>SHORT VERSION:  Recent research by many Bentley researchers leads to the wel=
>l=20
>documented conclusion that the sons of Daniel, d. ca 1721-1723, and Anne=20
>Bentley of Richmond Co.VA are most likely:  (a) JOHN with wife Christian=20
>HAMMOCK, whose father Benedict Hammock deeds them land in 1756 in NOTTOWAY=20
>Parish, Amelia Co.VA; (b) WILLIAM with wife Elizabeth, who purchases land in=
>=20
>1751 from Thomas Jones in Brunswick Co., VA; and (c) SAMUEL (S) Bentley, Sr.=
>,=20
>who purchases land in NOTTOWAY Parish, Amelia Co., from William Jackson, and=
>=20
>who dies ca 1795/6 in Amelia's offspring, Nottoway Co., and whose children=20
>and many of whose grandchildren are identified in ensuing court cases (see=20
>below).  The research also confirms that Daniel's widow Ann Bentley ca 1731=20
>married (2) James Spicer, who died in 1767/8 in Brunswick Co. VA (and was=20
>witness to William Bentley's land purchase in 1751, and with wife Ann,=20
>deceased by time of Spicer's will probably, leased land from Thomas Jones=20
>also.).   Footnote: the parents of Daniel Bentley, d. ca 1723 in Richmond Co=
>.=20
>are still a questionmark, since there is another Daniel with wife Elizabeth,=
>=20
>whose children are in the Richmond Co. records in the 1720s.
>
>As a result of these conclusions on the sons of Daniel and Anne, it is=20
>further felt that the following two individuals who appear in Amelia Co in=20
>the 1730s, are most likely NOT, as many have thought and so published, the=20
>sons of Daniel and Anne Bentley of Richmond Co.: (a) Samuel Bentley, whose=20
>1784 will is probated in April 1795 in RALEIGH Parish, Amelia Co.; and (b)=20
>John Bentley, who married Mary Ellis 1727 in Middlesex Co. VA, probably firs=
>t=20
>sexton of new chapel for Bristol Parish on Saml Cobbs land (now Grub Hill=20
>Church), first constable of Amelia Co., land patent 1745 in RALEIGH parish,=20
>Amelia Co. and who moves ca. 1750 to now Halifax Co., where his own brood of=
>=20
>Bentleys flourish in the 1700s (more research needed, probably all his, but=20
>alas no wills found yet or incriminating deeds.)
>
>LONG VERSION:=20
>
>Intensive research by several descendants of Bentleys in originals of court=20
>records/tax lists, etc. for Amelia, Nottoway, Halifax, Brunswick, Powhatan,=20
>Lunenburg have led us to several conclusions I thought I'd share with you=20
>all.  This is sort of like stopping a moving train, but there may be some=20
>items below that could qualify as Christmas gifts for some of you.  There is=
>=20
>nothing below on the sons of (or not the sons of) of Daniel and Anne Bentley=
>=20
>that we don't think we can document, based on what we know. I myself have ha=
>d=20
>a Christmas in July present snatched from me.   All of the following is base=
>d=20
>on extensive examination by a group of no-axes-to grind wonderful cousins (w=
>e=20
>hope anyway! -- the cousin part) and represent the most likely scenario for=20
>the following folks -- that either provide new information or indicate that=20
>certain connections that have been made by many previously in published=20
>sources that we feel need to be probably severed and reexamined (including,=20
>alas, my own):
>
>First.  IDENTIFICATION OF THE THREE SONS OF DANIEL & ANN BENTLEY OF RICHMOND=
>=20
>CO. VA  -- to wit: John, Samuel, William named in Ann's 1731 deed of gift,=20
>Richmond Co. VA.   Based on a study of deeds, wills, neighbors (choking on=20
>Richmond Co folks), estate sales, signatures vs. marks, locations and dates=20
>(location, location, location and dates and dates), the sons of Daniel of=20
>Richmond Co VA: d. abt 1721-1723 Richmond Co. VA. and Anne, who married (2)=20
>James Spicer abt 1731 (a documented union) are most likely:
>
>(a) JOHN is John Bentley with wife Christian HAMMOCK, d/o Benedict Hammock,=20
>Sr.  He appears to move from Richmond Co to NOTTOWAY Parish, Amelia Co.about=
>=20
>1748 (tax lists); receive land from her father in Amelia 1756; they sell=20
>Amelia land & move with his brother William to ONSLOW Co. NC about 1762 wher=
>e=20
>there are Hammocks/HAMMONDS (confusion with two is tremendous); sells land=20
>with brother William below probably in  Onslow Co. in 1774, and eventually b=
>y=20
>1784 Christian Bentley shows up in Wilkes Co. GA court regarding a headright=
>=20
>she never claims.  Their only identified child so far is their son James in=20
>James Spicer's 1767 will in Brunswick Co.:A later chancery case with this=20
>James as plaintiff, identifies himself as James Spicer's grandson; Spicer=20
>likely being only grandfather he ever knew.  Exactly what happened to John=20
>Bentley, husband of Christian, is not known yet.  Wilkes Co. Georgia has a=20
>mess of Bentleys (and Hammocks) beginning in the 1770s that makes sorting=20
>Amelia Co. Bentleys child's play (in retrospect :-).
>
>(b) WILLIAM, baptized 13 March 1720/21 No. Farnham Parish, is William Bentle=
>y=20
>with wife Elizabeth unk, who appears in Brunswick Co. VA by 1750, purchases=20
>land from Thomas Jones in 1751 (James Spicer, witness); sells the land in=20
>1762 to Peter Cooke; moves it is believed with brother John to Onslow Co; in=
>=20
>1774 with brother, or possibly son, John sells the Onslow Co. land; spent=20
>some time in SC it seems; probably William with headrights in 1775 in Wilkes=
>=20
>Co. GA; possibly William with wife Jane, many children, who has 1791 Wilkes=20
>Co. GA will.  (There is a William Bentley & Jane Hammond marriage in Onslow=20
>Co NC1774).  Only identified son of William is John in James Spicer's
>will.=20=
>=20
>Footnote:  James and Ann Spicer leased land for lifetime for yearly rents=20
>from the above Thomas Jones in Brunswick Co. in 1753. =20
>
>(c) SAMUEL, baptized 30 December 1719, No. Farnham Parish, is Samuel (S)=20
>Bentley, Sr. who appears 1748 in NOTTOWAY Parish, Amelia Co. tax lists with=20
>brother John, Hammocks many other Richmond Co families; purchases land in=20
>Amelia 1752 from William Jackson; later deeds part of land to Samuel Jr.=20
>(1781), dau Sarah (1785), and Elizabeth VAUGHAN (1785 -- for natural life);=20
>dies intestate ca 1795/6 in Nottoway Co. (no move, but cut from Amelia=20
>1788/9).  Because there are two Samuel Bentleys of the same age who die abou=
>t=20
>the same time and both lived in Amelia Co at one time, the above Samuel will=
>=20
>be referred to herein always as Samuel (S) Bentley, Sr.
>
>It is with this Samuel (S) Bentley Sr.'s family that we have made the=20
>greatest strides in putting a family group together -- and only because one=20
>of us, Marsha Bentley, fairly new to Bentley research, spent the equivalent=20
>of two weeks at the LVA, and has rented numerous microfilms, including the=20
>critical Nottoway Co. wills and court orders (no abstracts in that neck of=20
>the woods).
>
>In brief, we have determined from court records regarding settlement of his=20
>estate that Samuel (S) Bentley, Sr. and probable wife or wives Mary and=20
>Elizabeth, per No. Farnham Parish records & Nottoway estate records, had=20
>these six children known to have lived to adulthood: =20
>
>(1) Samuel Bentley, Jr., married probably Sarah, died intestate in Nottoway=20
>Co 1795/6 about same time as his father (complications there!),  and had:  =20
>Samuel; Charlotte; Susanna; Mary; Elizabeth and possibly Elisha.  Samuel Jr.=
>=20
>was deeded the land in 1781 by his father.  My interpretation of estate=20
>settlement records and other court actions is that his wife at his death was=
>=20
>probably named Sarah.=20
>
>(2) Sarah/Sally Bentley (never married) had children:  Joel and William=20
>Bentley, probably Freeman.  They moved to Union Co. SC. She was deeded land=20
>in Amelia Co. by her father in 1785.  Our researchers include descendants=20
>with much more information. Note:  this is a BIG change, as Sarah had=20
>previously been thought almost universally to be a daughter of Samuel=20
>Bentley, whose will was probated in 1795..and unnamed in the will because of=
>=20
>her bastard children.
>
>(3) Jeremiah Bentley, b. 1759, Rev. War soldier, d. 1841, Lawrence Co., TN.=20
>Our researchers include a descendant with much more information.
>
>(4) Daniel Bentley, married Milley HAMMOCK, d/o of as yet identified Hammock=
>=20
>-- many candidates..  Daniel died ca. 1791 in Lunenburg Co. VA.  He had thre=
>e=20
>children:  John H. Bentley m. Martha MOORE (in GA); Robert H. Bentley m.=20
>Catherine INGE, and Anne who married George AMOSS.  Our researchers include=20
>several researchers of this line.  Not only do Nottoway Court entries=20
>identify the children, but so do Wilkes Co. GA records.=20
>
>(5) Mary married an ALLGOOD, probably the Edward  who died. 1783 Amelia Co.=20
>They had children:  William, John, William, Samuel, Jeremiah, Daniel, Mary=20
>Winney, Elizabeth.
>
>(6) Alsey married a VAUGHAN, probably Randolph, maybe Daniel.  They had=20
>Leroy, Hartwell, Sukey, William A. and possibly Daniel. =20
>
>Information on descendants of the above can be found at these two websites:
>http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=3DGET&db=3Dronhead&id=
>=3DI18735
>http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=3DGET&db=3Dkarebear&id=
>=3DI37857
>
>Second..CONCLUSION THAT THE FIRST SAMUEL BENTLEY AND JOHN BENTLEY IN AMELIA=20
>CO., RALEIGH PARISH IN 1730s ARE MOST LIKELY NOT SONS OF DANIEL AND ANNE =20
>BENTLEY OF RICHMOND CO.  Their ancestors are not known, though they could be=
>=20
>brothers.  The views below on Weldon/Efford ties are primarily just mine.
>
>Back in the summer I, as [log in to unmask], posted here regarding recent=20
>Bentley research, and what appeared to be rather successful efforts to=20
>solidify the connection I was given (and as noted  published numerous places=
>)=20
>that my Samuel Bentley -- with the Amelia Co, (then PG Co)., 1734 patent and=
>=20
>whose will written in 1784 was probated in April 1795 in Amelia Co., VA --=20
>was the son of Daniel and Anne Bentley of Richmond Co. Virginia. =20
>Specifically, that he was the Samuel (S) Bentley, Sr. otherwise identified=20
>above.  The Samuel Bentley whose 1784 will was probated in 1795 in Amelia=20
>Co., I'll refer to as Samuel Bentley (d. ca 1795). =20
>
>Further, many researchers have claimed that Daniel and Anne's son John=20
>Bentley was the John Bentley who married Mary ELLIS in 1727 in Middlesex Co.=
>=20
>and we believe appears in the 1730s with my Samuel in Amelia Co., Raleigh=20
>Parish, sexton of Bristol Parish for chapel built on Cobbs land, Flat Creek,=
>=20
>later Amelia co.; first constable of Amelia Co., 1745 land patent there sold=
>=20
>to Samuel Tarry in 1749 and moves to Halifax Co. =20
>
>We feel that overwhelming odds are that neither of the above two early Ameli=
>a=20
>County settlers belong to Daniel and Anne Bentley of Richmond Co.  Thus, thi=
>s=20
>recent research (for me) leaves up-in-the-air the ancestry of Samuel Bentley=
>=20
>(d. ca 1795, Amelia) and of John Bentley (wife Mary Ellis)  later moved to=20
>Halifax Co..   I mention this, and many of the surnames above, here because=20
>there are various genealogies out there that connect them to Daniel and Anne=
>=20
>of Richmond Co. VA in the case of this Samuel, or who have been eying the=20
>Richmond Co. records in the case of the Halifax Bentleys where John and Mary=
>=20
>Ellis moved.
>
>The wife of Samuel Bentley (d. ca 1795) is not proven (nor mentioned in any=20
>Amelia Co. records clearly separated from Samuel (S) Bentley, Sr.) but is=20
>widely shown as Mary Weldon or Efford, probably as a result of an article in=
>=20
>the Wm & Mary Quarterly several decades ago that said  point blank, without=20
>documentation or references, that  EITHER his wife or his mother was a=20
>descendant of Samuel Weldon and Sarah Efford, d/o Peter, of James City Co.=20
>Research on Halifax Co. Bentleys suggest the connection was possibly via the=
>=20
>mother not his wife.  The children of Samuel (d. ca 1795) married into these=
>=20
>families, some of whose descendants have the Daniel and Anne Bentley=20
>connection in their trees: Anderson, Archer, Booker, Cobbs, Gay, Saunders,=20
>Turpin, Winston    We have much more information on the above.
>
>There is some evidence that the Weldon/Efford connection may not been throug=
>h=20
>a wife of Samuel Bentley, d. ca 1795, but more likely his mother who may hav=
>e=20
>been a daughter of Samuel Weldon and Sarah Efford married to a Bentley (with=
>=20
>ties to York Co.)  This unknown speculative couple may also have been the=20
>parents of John Bentley (wife Mary Ellis).  Because=E2=80=A6.Knowing the inf=
>o out=20
>
>there that Samuel Bentley (d. ca 1795) had sons with Efford/Peter/Weldon=20
>
>names, a group of Owen/Womack Halifax Co. VA researchers have for some time=20
>
>been eyeing Daniel and Anne Bentley's daughter Ann in Richmond Co parish=20
>
>records as the candidate for wife Nancy of a Halifax Co. James OWEN, who had=
>=20
>
>a son Efford, a son Peter, then grandchildren, great grandchildren,,,etc.=20
>
>named Efford Owen, Richard Bentley Owen, Richard Bentley WOMACK.   It now=20
>appears to me more likely that this Ann/Nancy, if indeed a Bentley, who=20
>married James Owen, may have been a daughter of John Bentley and Mary Ellis=20
>-- who have an unnamed daughter baptized or born (sorry can't remember which=
>)=20
>13 May 1730 in Bristol Parish records. Or a daughter Ann/Nancy, who along=20
>with other children of all the above Amelia families were probably recorded=20
>in the Raleigh and/or Nottoway Parish Registers, long gone.  We have deeds=20
>and other records that show Bentley/Owen ties in Richmond/Middlesex and=20
>especially Halifax Co.  On the Owen family see: =20
>http://members.fortunecity.com/jdw4/Owen1/rr01_008.html#P1616.
>
>Again, I am sorry this is so long.  There is a lot unsaid here, but I am=20
>hoping to provide some of you with perhaps new information and to connect=20
>with other researchers.   This has been a wonderful experience for me, still=
>=20
>ongoing, working with others open to all new data, no axes to grind, sharing=
>=20
>all information, studying all information, etc.  It has also shown the=20
>importance of a thorough review of records, often in a variety of counties,=20
>with a particular eye, to dates, locations, neighbors/cronies, etc.=20
>
>This is so long, I'm sure I've made several hopefully minor errors. =20
>
>In addition to my Bentley cousins, given the spirit of the season I in  want=
>=20
>to thank the following who have been especially helpful to me in this=20
>research:  Dixie, Bill Hunt, Steve & Bunny Binns (for all those tax lists,=20
>esp. early Amelia Co. ones), Paul Drake & Margaret Driskill (for putting up=20
>with numerous questions about documents), and in particular, always, my dail=
>y=20
>sounding boards and sources of untold amounts of information (and who I "met=
>"=20
>through a major error in my ancestry provided by a cousin for which I thank=20
>them daily) -- Linda Sparks Starr and Rhoda Fone.
>
>With my best wishes for a Merry Christmas,
>
>Janet (Baugh) Hunter
>
>
>
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