Hi did I respond to your question. When I switch from ipad to laptop, some get overlooked.
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On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Dusty Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Shelley - do you mind if I ask which tests you ordered from 23andme and
> FTDNA? So you did both maternal and paternal?
> Tks Dusty
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> From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shelley
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 7:51 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re: Cnythia
> McDaniel)
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> I have used several with various family lines: FamilytreeDNA, African
> Ancestry, National Genographic and 23andme. I am most happy with 23andme and
> FamilytreeDNA. You are correct with 23and me I am 55.6% European, 41% Sub
> saharan African, and .06% Asian/Native American, 1.9 unassigned. African
> Ancestry told me I did not have any African ancestry (because they test only
> went back so far and connected to the current tribes), my maternal line came
> from a European Female. They are probably correct on both counts.
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> Shelley Murphy, DM
> aka "familytreegirl"
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> Know Your Roots They are Long and Strong!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Threadgill <[log in to unmask]>
> To: VA-ROOTS <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 9:35 am
> Subject: Re: DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re: Cnythia
> McDaniel)
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> Anita,
> Friends and family who have tested with AfricanAncestry were not pleased
> with the results especially for the money paid and especially if you have a
> significant amount of European ancestry. Some have tested with African
> Ancestry first then had to go to other companies for more valid results.
> Linda
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 9:47 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re:
> Cnythia McDaniel)
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> Another lab that can be helpful is Howard University, which has a Genome
> Project. My brother tested there and the results came back 100% Native
> American on our paternal side. He transferred his results to FTDNA where I
> was tested in 2003. My results came back from FTDNA as partially Native
> American 8% and African 5%, but 87% European. Which was not surprising since
> that is what the Genealogy work I completed on my Maternal Lines showed.
> Although Howard tests for African Ancestry, my brother and cousins have
> tested as Native American and they provided them with certificates of Native
> Ancestry. Again, you must do the work of proving which tribe your ancestors
> come from. DNA is only one tool that can be used to prove your lines.
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> "If you believe people have no history worth mentioning, it's easy to
> believe they have no humanity worth defending."
> - William Loren Katz
> June 18, 2009
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Linda Threadgill <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re:
>> Cnythia McDaniel)
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>> Dusty,
>> My approach would be to first find out and understand exactly what each
>> type
>> of test will give you the information you are looking for. No DNA test is
>> going to give you tribal information. Also, most tests are too general to
>> give you any current or specific information and unless you can prove your
>> tribal affiliation thru a genealogy path, it is my understanding that DNA
>> info alone is not enough to be admitted into any tribe.
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>> Then consider the amount of NA who are doing DNA testing. At 23andMe there
>> are very few. What I have seen is that there is a fear of testing because
>> of the risk of being removed from the tribal rolls. I never suggest that
>> anyone test to prove any ethnic connection. Usually when doing autosomal
>> testing the percentage of NA genes that is shown is very low. This is due
>> to
>> several factors. One of which is recombination.
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>> Y and MTDNA testing is used to trace information or to connect people to a
>> common ancestor. The ability to trace to a common ancestor changes
>> depending
>> on whether your surname is the same as the persons you match. MTDNA testing
>> really doesn't help much to find a common ancestor because most people
>> don't
>> know the maiden names of their female ancestors and in some cases the
>> common ancestor goes back thousands of years. Neither Y or MTDNA will cover
>> all of your families lines so the benefit is minimal.
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>> If money is a consideration, 23andMe has the most bang for your buck. I am
>> finding many will test with 23andMe and upload the raw data received from
>> them to www.gedmatch.com for free. Folks who tested with FTDNA and
>> Ancestry.com can also upload their information there. Another thing with
>> 23andMe is that I think folks there are more apt to share information as
>> compared to FTDNA. 23andMe has community forums where discussions of all
>> types can be found. Also, 23andMe, if a tester is male, will do the Y,
>> MTDNA
>> and autosomal test for 1 price. It will also narrow your Y and MTDNA
>> haplogroups into what is called subclades without any additional testing.
>> FTDNA will charge additional for these tests.
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>> I originally tested with FTDNA in 2005, with AncestryByDNA in 2006 and
>> 23andMe in 2010. Many of my family has tested and done both MTDNA, YDNA and
>> autosomal testing. Most of my family are tri-racial and are part NA.
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>> One last thing, be very careful when deciding which projects to join at
>> FTDNA if this becomes your choice for a testing company. I have seen some
>> blogs, articles, etc that I question if the information contained was
>> obtained by ethical means, especially when it comes to NA and Melungeon
>> results. For a discussion on this, 23andMe is the forum where you will find
>> information.
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>> Linda
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 8:38 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re:
>> Cnythia McDaniel)
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>> Dusty:
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>> 1. Start with the video animations
>> <http://www.smgf.org/pages/animations.jspx> and know the differences among
>> the types of DNA tests and what the purpose of each is.
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>> 2. Decide what question(s) you want answered about which ancestor(s).
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>> 3. Follow Roberta Estes's blog <http://dna-explained.com>. She has posted
>> about every other day for the past year.
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>> 4. Get your 87-year-old male cousin tested by FamilyTreeDNA.com (FTDNA)
>> for his and your late father's yDNA, even at the low 12-marker
>> anthropological level. For genealogical results, at least 37 markers are
>> needed. His cheek brushings specimen will be preserved for 25 years so
>> that additional tests and upgrades can be ordered later. Become the
>> _contact_ person for his results and the _beneficiary_ of his results at
>> FTDNA. Or find another member of your family who is willing to take on
>> that responsibility.
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>> 5. Obtain autosomal DNA testing on yourself at 23andMe.com or
>> FamilyTreeDNA.com. If you obtain testing at 23andMe.com or another
>> company, it is advisable to transfer your data (does not include the spit
>> specimen) to FTDNA (for a fee) and to GEDmatch.com (free) to obtain
>> additional matches. FTDNA is currently having a sale through part of July.
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>> 6. Join a DNA genealogy group in your local area or within your local
>> genealogical society for information, discussion, and help.
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>> Or hire a professional genetic genealogist to make the testing decisions
>> and interpret the results for you. One place to find such a person is at
>> the Association for Professional Genealogists <www.apgen.org>. Another
>> place is on the DNA blogs: _DNA eXplained_, _Your Genetic Genealogist_,
>> _The Genetic Genealogist_, and _The Legal Genealogist_.
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>> Hope this helps.
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>> --Ida Skarson McCormick, [log in to unmask], Seattle,
>> Member of the Seattle Genealogical Society's DNA Interest Group
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>> Dusty wrote:
>> I have read most of what you referred me and am nonetheless very
>> confused. I find it overwhelming.
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