Hi did I respond to your question. When I switch from ipad to laptop, some get overlooked. Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Dusty Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Shelley - do you mind if I ask which tests you ordered from 23andme and > FTDNA? So you did both maternal and paternal? > Tks Dusty > > -----Original Message----- > From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history. > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shelley > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 7:51 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re: Cnythia > McDaniel) > > I have used several with various family lines: FamilytreeDNA, African > Ancestry, National Genographic and 23andme. I am most happy with 23andme and > FamilytreeDNA. You are correct with 23and me I am 55.6% European, 41% Sub > saharan African, and .06% Asian/Native American, 1.9 unassigned. African > Ancestry told me I did not have any African ancestry (because they test only > went back so far and connected to the current tribes), my maternal line came > from a European Female. They are probably correct on both counts. > > > Shelley Murphy, DM > aka "familytreegirl" > > > Know Your Roots They are Long and Strong! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Threadgill <[log in to unmask]> > To: VA-ROOTS <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 9:35 am > Subject: Re: DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re: Cnythia > McDaniel) > > > Anita, > Friends and family who have tested with AfricanAncestry were not pleased > with the results especially for the money paid and especially if you have a > significant amount of European ancestry. Some have tested with African > Ancestry first then had to go to other companies for more valid results. > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 9:47 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re: > Cnythia McDaniel) > > Another lab that can be helpful is Howard University, which has a Genome > Project. My brother tested there and the results came back 100% Native > American on our paternal side. He transferred his results to FTDNA where I > was tested in 2003. My results came back from FTDNA as partially Native > American 8% and African 5%, but 87% European. Which was not surprising since > that is what the Genealogy work I completed on my Maternal Lines showed. > Although Howard tests for African Ancestry, my brother and cousins have > tested as Native American and they provided them with certificates of Native > Ancestry. Again, you must do the work of proving which tribe your ancestors > come from. DNA is only one tool that can be used to prove your lines. > > Howard University Genome Project > > Anita Wills > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary and Patty Bowden Foundation > > > Anita Talks Genealogy - Blog Talk Radio > > > "If you believe people have no history worth mentioning, it's easy to > believe they have no humanity worth defending." > - William Loren Katz > June 18, 2009 > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Linda Threadgill <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re: >> Cnythia McDaniel) >> >> >> Dusty, >> My approach would be to first find out and understand exactly what each >> type >> of test will give you the information you are looking for. No DNA test is >> going to give you tribal information. Also, most tests are too general to >> give you any current or specific information and unless you can prove your >> tribal affiliation thru a genealogy path, it is my understanding that DNA >> info alone is not enough to be admitted into any tribe. >> >> Then consider the amount of NA who are doing DNA testing. At 23andMe there >> are very few. What I have seen is that there is a fear of testing because >> of the risk of being removed from the tribal rolls. I never suggest that >> anyone test to prove any ethnic connection. Usually when doing autosomal >> testing the percentage of NA genes that is shown is very low. This is due >> to >> several factors. One of which is recombination. >> >> Y and MTDNA testing is used to trace information or to connect people to a >> common ancestor. The ability to trace to a common ancestor changes >> depending >> on whether your surname is the same as the persons you match. MTDNA testing >> really doesn't help much to find a common ancestor because most people >> don't >> know the maiden names of their female ancestors and in some cases the >> common ancestor goes back thousands of years. Neither Y or MTDNA will cover >> all of your families lines so the benefit is minimal. >> >> If money is a consideration, 23andMe has the most bang for your buck. I am >> finding many will test with 23andMe and upload the raw data received from >> them to www.gedmatch.com for free. Folks who tested with FTDNA and >> Ancestry.com can also upload their information there. Another thing with >> 23andMe is that I think folks there are more apt to share information as >> compared to FTDNA. 23andMe has community forums where discussions of all >> types can be found. Also, 23andMe, if a tester is male, will do the Y, >> MTDNA >> and autosomal test for 1 price. It will also narrow your Y and MTDNA >> haplogroups into what is called subclades without any additional testing. >> FTDNA will charge additional for these tests. >> >> I originally tested with FTDNA in 2005, with AncestryByDNA in 2006 and >> 23andMe in 2010. Many of my family has tested and done both MTDNA, YDNA and >> autosomal testing. Most of my family are tri-racial and are part NA. >> >> One last thing, be very careful when deciding which projects to join at >> FTDNA if this becomes your choice for a testing company. I have seen some >> blogs, articles, etc that I question if the information contained was >> obtained by ethical means, especially when it comes to NA and Melungeon >> results. For a discussion on this, 23andMe is the forum where you will find >> information. >> >> Linda >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [log in to unmask] >> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 8:38 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re: >> Cnythia McDaniel) >> >> Dusty: >> >> 1. Start with the video animations >> <http://www.smgf.org/pages/animations.jspx> and know the differences among >> the types of DNA tests and what the purpose of each is. >> >> 2. Decide what question(s) you want answered about which ancestor(s). >> >> 3. Follow Roberta Estes's blog <http://dna-explained.com>. She has posted >> about every other day for the past year. >> >> 4. Get your 87-year-old male cousin tested by FamilyTreeDNA.com (FTDNA) >> for his and your late father's yDNA, even at the low 12-marker >> anthropological level. For genealogical results, at least 37 markers are >> needed. His cheek brushings specimen will be preserved for 25 years so >> that additional tests and upgrades can be ordered later. Become the >> _contact_ person for his results and the _beneficiary_ of his results at >> FTDNA. Or find another member of your family who is willing to take on >> that responsibility. >> >> 5. Obtain autosomal DNA testing on yourself at 23andMe.com or >> FamilyTreeDNA.com. If you obtain testing at 23andMe.com or another >> company, it is advisable to transfer your data (does not include the spit >> specimen) to FTDNA (for a fee) and to GEDmatch.com (free) to obtain >> additional matches. FTDNA is currently having a sale through part of July. >> >> 6. Join a DNA genealogy group in your local area or within your local >> genealogical society for information, discussion, and help. >> >> Or hire a professional genetic genealogist to make the testing decisions >> and interpret the results for you. One place to find such a person is at >> the Association for Professional Genealogists <www.apgen.org>. Another >> place is on the DNA blogs: _DNA eXplained_, _Your Genetic Genealogist_, >> _The Genetic Genealogist_, and _The Legal Genealogist_. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> --Ida Skarson McCormick, [log in to unmask], Seattle, >> Member of the Seattle Genealogical Society's DNA Interest Group >> >> ------------------------ >> Dusty wrote: >> I have read most of what you referred me and am nonetheless very >> confused. 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