Yep, sure looks that way...but maybe it's an old treaty entered into
under less than perfect circumstances which is colliding with a modern
concept of self determination...
So we'll have to see how the court decides to rule....
On 3/4/07, Anita Wills <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> You are right!! It is what it is. History was used in the description of the
> so-called treaty of 1866, and that was the only connection. My point was
> that the tribe points the finger at the US for ignoring treaties and is now
> doing the same thing.
>
> Anita
>
>
> >From: "Stephan A. Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Cherokee Election March 3rd Q&A
> >Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:23:38 -0500
> >
> >This is not about historical fairness, or anything about history at all,
> >except the use of racial characterization in the service of greed. This
> >is about how, one group is forcing another group away from the money table
> >so "there will be more for me."
> >
> >-- Stephan
> >
> >On 4 Mar 2007, at 11:14, Coats Family History wrote:
> >
> >>Once again this is a Cherokee by Blood issue....Cherokee democracy at
> >>work...
> >>
> >>The Freedment didn't sign the 1866 treaty and the US forced the
> >>Cherokees to enter into that treaty...
> >>
> >>Once again not the Cherokee Nation's fault, the Dawes choose to record
> >>the information the way they did...
> >>
> >>I have no family stories of slaves among my Cherokee ancestors...so I
> >>admit no knowledge of slaves and their owners....
> >>
> >>Charlotte
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On 3/4/07, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>There is a United Cherokee Tribe of Virginia that celebrates their
> >>>ancestry
> >>>in the state. They were mostly located in the mountains in the SW part
> >>>of
> >>>the state.
> >>>
> >>>The Cherokees were slaveowners and while they banned the ownership of
> >>>Indian
> >>>slaves in the early 18th century as a tribal matter, they collected and
> >>>kept
> >>>Black slaves up until 1866 when that ended via treaty with the US.
> >>>See,
> >>>Theda Perdue, Slavery and the Evolution of Cherokee Society. The
> >>>Cherokee were
> >>>notoriously cruel slave owners and developed great skill in tracking
> >>>down
> >>>runaway slaves for white owners; however some had a habit of killing
> >>>the Black
> >>>slaves once they found them and so the Cherokee fell out of favor as
> >>>slave
> >>>catchers. Seems like this dislike for their Black brothers goes a ways
> >>>back.
> >>>76% is a pretty telling indication of how the tribal members still
> >>>feel.
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