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Bill Bryant <[log in to unmask]>
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Bill Bryant <[log in to unmask]>
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I second and third that. Nobody's mind is going to be changed!!!



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Bonis" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: "high crimes and misdemeanors"


> Enough of this foolery!  Please no more of Sally and Thomas.  We've heard
> enough.
>
>
> Kevin Hardwick wrote:
>
> > Mr. Dixon--
> >
> > As an attorney, do you think you could persuade a jury to believe the
> > allegations against Jefferson?  In as much as the most persuasive
arguments
> > on the issue on both sides have been produced by lawyers and not
academic
> > historians, my guess is that it is not entirely implausible to imagine
> > juries that *would* convict.  If so, are academic historians any worse
than
> > Americans in general?
> >
> > While the particular question of whether or not Jefferson had a liason
with
> > Hemings has obvious interest to Jefferson and Hemings decendents, I find
it
> > a distraction from the larger issue of Jefferson's moral complicity with
> > slavery itself.  We have a great deal of information, much of it quite
> > direct and incontrovertible, that on the larger issue of slavery,
> > Jefferson's behavior was in direct contradiction with his own
principles.
> > The proper historical standard by which to judge Jefferson, after all,
is
> > the standard he himself established.  But here, he was *at best* a
> > hypocrite (in a way, for example, that can not be said of either Patrick
> > Henry or George Washington).  This remains true whether or not Jefferson
> > had sex with Sally Hemings.
> >
> > Best,
> > Kevin
> >
> > --On Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:26 PM +0000 "Richard E. Dixon"
> > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 3/28/02 11:20:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > >
> > > << Jefferson never
> > >  really went public in his denials, so is that any more misleading
than
> > >  any other presidential philanderer  >>
> > >
> > > My goodness, Jefferson did not publish a full page denial of the third
> > > party hearsay that plagued him about Sally Hemings. Would that have
made a
> > > difference in the predisposition of many academics unaffected by the
> > > absence of any direct evidence?
> > > _____________________________________________________________________
> > > Richard E. Dixon
> > > Attorney at Law
> > > 4122 Leonard Drive
> > > Fairfax, VA 22030
> > > 703-691-0770
> > > fax 703-691-0978
> > > ______________________________________________________________________
> > >
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> >
> > --
> > Kevin R. Hardwick, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor
> > Department of History, MSC 2001
> > James Madison University
> > Harrisonburg VA 22807
> > Phone:  540/568-6306
> > Email:  [log in to unmask]
> >
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> --
>
> ~~~
> Ray Bonis
> Special Collections and Archives
> James Branch Cabell Library
> 901 Park Ave. VCU Box 842033
> Richmond, VA 23284-2033
>
> Phone: (804) 828-1108
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