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Anita Wills <[log in to unmask]>
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Shame on the Cherokee for using March 3rd to expel the Freedmen. Here they 
are using the power of the full moon to do evil. So much power was available 
that could have been used for good.  You continue to use the US Government 
as a scapegoat, when it was you that sold out the other tribes. Shame on you 
using Great Spirit and Mother Earth for your evil deeds.

Anita

>From: Clara Callahan <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history         
>      <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Cherokee Election March 3rd Q&A
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 12:51:50 -0800
>
>That's a mighty sweeping statement you're making, and heresay unless you've 
>got something to back it up.
>
>Anita Wills <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  My understanding also, is that 
>the Cherokee receive funding from the US
>Government for other tribes. I am told that the other tribes see little of
>that money, in other words it is mismanaged by the Cherokee. There is 
>little
>oversite by our government, and there should be. The tribes are suffering
>from grinding poverty at the hands of those who are exploiting their
>finances (imho). We should be writing letters of complaint to our
>representatives.
>
>Anita
>
>
> >From: Sunshine49
> >Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
> >
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Cherokee Election March 3rd Q&A
> >Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:33:42 -0500
> >
> >I agree, and while I can be aware of the suspicion that the vote was
> >evidently driven by an agenda and those who were pushing it [and those 
>who
> >bothered to get out and vote], it does seem a sad day for the Tribe as a
> >whole, they will all be tarred by this, including many who no doubt had 
>no
> >racial agenda. They just had better things to do on a nice spring
> >Saturday.
> >
> >Nancy
> >
> >-------
> >I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.
> >
> >--Daniel Boone
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mar 4, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Anita Wills wrote:
> >
> >>You can continue to say that, but the backlash is going to be on the
> >>Cherokee. They were one of the Five Civilized Tribes, those who wanted 
>to
> >>emulate the white man. In the end the white man treated them just like
> >>the rest of the Tribes (the ones they sold out), and sent them on, The
> >>Trail of Tears. The Cherokee are the first to talk about the US
> >>Government not honoring Treaties, and then you do the same thing. You 
>can
> >>keep pointing that finger at the government, but your own leaders are
> >>gloating and bragging (on the news), that this is democracy at work.
> >>What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
> >>
> >>Anita
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: Coats Family History
> >>>Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
> >>>
> >>>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>Subject: Re: Cherokee Election March 3rd Q&A
> >>>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 08:14:14 -0800
> >>>
> >>>Once again this is a Cherokee by Blood issue....Cherokee democracy at
> >>>work...
> >>>
> >>>The Freedment didn't sign the 1866 treaty and the US forced the
> >>>Cherokees to enter into that treaty...
> >>>
> >>>Once again not the Cherokee Nation's fault, the Dawes choose to record
> >>>the information the way they did...
> >>>
> >>>I have no family stories of slaves among my Cherokee ancestors...so I
> >>>admit no knowledge of slaves and their owners....
> >>>
> >>>Charlotte
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On 3/4/07, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >>>>There is a United Cherokee Tribe of Virginia that celebrates their
> >>>>ancestry
> >>>>in the state. They were mostly located in the mountains in the SW part
> >>>>of
> >>>>the state.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Cherokees were slaveowners and while they banned the ownership of
> >>>>Indian
> >>>>slaves in the early 18th century as a tribal matter, they collected 
>and
> >>>> kept
> >>>>Black slaves up until 1866 when that ended via treaty with the US.
> >>>>See,
> >>>>Theda Perdue, Slavery and the Evolution of Cherokee Society. The
> >>>>Cherokee were
> >>>>notoriously cruel slave owners and developed great skill in tracking
> >>>>down
> >>>>runaway slaves for white owners; however some had a habit of killing
> >>>>the Black
> >>>>slaves once they found them and so the Cherokee fell out of favor as
> >>>>slave
> >>>>catchers. Seems like this dislike for their Black brothers goes a
> >>>>ways back.
> >>>>76% is a pretty telling indication of how the tribal members still
> >>>>feel.
> >>>>
>
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