No, I'm in Virginia.

I've been working on my graduate research in Arizona quite a bit  
though, and saw the Heard show there.

I've not read the book you're speaking of. The story reminds me of  
"Rabbit Proof Fence", which was a terrific movie  on the same subject  
in Australia.

I'll ask around about your book, and if I find anything I'll post it.

Jessica




On May 18, 2007, at 10:43 PM, qvarizona wrote:

> Jessica, are you in Arizona?
>
>  I remember several years ago reading a biography written by an   
> O'odham man who had  been a  student at the Indian School in  
> Phoenix.  He told of running away and hopping on the local train to  
> go back to the reservation.   I've spent hours online today trying  
> to find it without success.   Does this ring any bells?  Would love  
> to find this book again.
>
> Joanne
>
>
> Jessica Welton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: The Heard Museum held an  
> exhibit several years ago about the Native
> Boarding School experience. There was an accompanying book, by
> Margaret Archuleta, I believe.
>
>
> Jessica Welton
>
>
>
>
> On May 18, 2007, at 4:05 PM, Anita Wills wrote:
>
>> I understand your point and want to clarify my remark. There are
>> few historians of color, who have accepted writings about the white
>> American experience. By that statement, I mean that their writings
>> are not accepted over the writings of those who lived the
>> experience. Within the Native and African experiences here in
>> America is seems more acceptable for white historians to write our
>> experiences. That is probably unique to America, I don't know. My
>> point is not to say that others should not write our history, but
>> that we are lacking a body of writing from Native and African
>> perspectives. I do like reading from those who are making
>> observations, but when they come to conclusions that fit their own
>> bias, well it is hard to accept.
>>
>> I want to thank everyone who has responded for being open to the
>> discussion. I am open to everyones opinion, and hope that I am
>> responding in kind.
>>
>> Anita
>>
>>> From: "Lyle E. Browning"
>>> Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia
>>> history
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Indian Schools
>>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:43:38 -0400
>>>
>>> On May 18, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Anita Wills wrote:
>>>
>>>> (snip).... I don't believe anyone would try to step in the shoes
>>>> of  Jewish people, and try to explain away the holocaust.
>>>> Yet, it seems to be acceptable to do exactly that when it comes
>>>> to  Natives and blacks in America.
>>> I don't think that is the case. Anyone with a hint of
>>> intelligence  will not be denying what happened. We argue about
>>> issues within both,  but not the bigger picture of either. The
>>> lack of a substantive body  of historical material written by
>>> either group kind of limits things  to later materials in the WPA
>>> format with the problems previously  discussed. Sure, there are
>>> misguided souls who will argue in the face  of overwhelming
>>> evidence that the holocaust never happened, that  Native American
>>> culture didn't take a massive hit and/or didn't bring  it on
>>> themselves, and that African-Americans were a happy lot working
>>> on the plantations with their basic needs provided. But, you have
>>> to  compare their numbers now to what they were 50 years ago to
>>> see how  perceptions change due to increasing amounts of
>>> scholarship nuking  the old stereotypical arguments. One must also
>>> keep up one's guard in  any event lest it be forgotten and repeated.
>>>>
>>>> The only people who can describe what happened and its' impact
>>>> are  the ones who were affected by the events.
>>> Now that is just so wrong. No-one owns history. The folks who
>>> went  through the holocaust are in general in their 80's and
>>> within  probably 20 years all will be gone. It is probably correct
>>> to say  that they have a definite stake in their history due to
>>> their  immediacy. After they're gone, holocaust publications will
>>> necessarily be written by folks who weren't directly affected.
>>> Sometimes distance provides objectivity.
>>>
>>> But, there are no African-American former slaves living and no
>>> Native  Americans living who were transported. The numbers of
>>> Native  Americans, like the holocaust survivors, who went through
>>> enforced  acculturation a la Carlisle, are also getting up in
>>> years if not all  already gone.
>>>
>>> Even those folks who endured the idiocy that was Jim Crow are
>>> getting  long in the tooth and will not so much longer be amongst  
>>> us.
>>>
>>> After that, scholars and researchers will beaver away and produce
>>> their works, and that work will be based upon their interests and
>>> what the historical record has for them to interpret.
>>>
>>> Ned Heite and I were bemoaning the fact that most archaeologists
>>> come  from an urban or suburban background and are out there
>>> interpreting  rural farms without any direct experience with and/
>>> or knowledge of  them. While not at the same level as folks
>>> finding a collection of  milk bottles and interpreting it as a
>>> cow's nest, the lack of  experience inevitably means something
>>> will be lost because it is not  perceived as meaningful. On the
>>> other hand, due to their diverse  backgrounds and interests,
>>> people will look at farms from economic  viewpoints and from other
>>> viewpoints that provide insight beyond the  straight experiential
>>> views.
>>>
>>> From a personal perspective, I was an (American) site supervisor
>>> on  a Viking (Scandanavian) site off the north coast of (Gaelic/
>>> British)  Scotland. After generations of European folks digging
>>> Viking sites,  it was my meagre contribution to tease out the
>>> chronological sequence  of building types for the first time.
>>> Contributions to history are  not the sole province of those who
>>> lived it.
>>>
>>> Lyle Browning, RPA
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