No, I'm in Virginia. I've been working on my graduate research in Arizona quite a bit though, and saw the Heard show there. I've not read the book you're speaking of. The story reminds me of "Rabbit Proof Fence", which was a terrific movie on the same subject in Australia. I'll ask around about your book, and if I find anything I'll post it. Jessica On May 18, 2007, at 10:43 PM, qvarizona wrote: > Jessica, are you in Arizona? > > I remember several years ago reading a biography written by an > O'odham man who had been a student at the Indian School in > Phoenix. He told of running away and hopping on the local train to > go back to the reservation. I've spent hours online today trying > to find it without success. Does this ring any bells? Would love > to find this book again. > > Joanne > > > Jessica Welton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: The Heard Museum held an > exhibit several years ago about the Native > Boarding School experience. There was an accompanying book, by > Margaret Archuleta, I believe. > > > Jessica Welton > > > > > On May 18, 2007, at 4:05 PM, Anita Wills wrote: > >> I understand your point and want to clarify my remark. There are >> few historians of color, who have accepted writings about the white >> American experience. By that statement, I mean that their writings >> are not accepted over the writings of those who lived the >> experience. Within the Native and African experiences here in >> America is seems more acceptable for white historians to write our >> experiences. That is probably unique to America, I don't know. My >> point is not to say that others should not write our history, but >> that we are lacking a body of writing from Native and African >> perspectives. I do like reading from those who are making >> observations, but when they come to conclusions that fit their own >> bias, well it is hard to accept. >> >> I want to thank everyone who has responded for being open to the >> discussion. I am open to everyones opinion, and hope that I am >> responding in kind. >> >> Anita >> >>> From: "Lyle E. Browning" >>> Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia >>> history >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: Indian Schools >>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:43:38 -0400 >>> >>> On May 18, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Anita Wills wrote: >>> >>>> (snip).... I don't believe anyone would try to step in the shoes >>>> of Jewish people, and try to explain away the holocaust. >>>> Yet, it seems to be acceptable to do exactly that when it comes >>>> to Natives and blacks in America. >>> I don't think that is the case. Anyone with a hint of >>> intelligence will not be denying what happened. We argue about >>> issues within both, but not the bigger picture of either. The >>> lack of a substantive body of historical material written by >>> either group kind of limits things to later materials in the WPA >>> format with the problems previously discussed. Sure, there are >>> misguided souls who will argue in the face of overwhelming >>> evidence that the holocaust never happened, that Native American >>> culture didn't take a massive hit and/or didn't bring it on >>> themselves, and that African-Americans were a happy lot working >>> on the plantations with their basic needs provided. But, you have >>> to compare their numbers now to what they were 50 years ago to >>> see how perceptions change due to increasing amounts of >>> scholarship nuking the old stereotypical arguments. One must also >>> keep up one's guard in any event lest it be forgotten and repeated. >>>> >>>> The only people who can describe what happened and its' impact >>>> are the ones who were affected by the events. >>> Now that is just so wrong. No-one owns history. The folks who >>> went through the holocaust are in general in their 80's and >>> within probably 20 years all will be gone. It is probably correct >>> to say that they have a definite stake in their history due to >>> their immediacy. After they're gone, holocaust publications will >>> necessarily be written by folks who weren't directly affected. >>> Sometimes distance provides objectivity. >>> >>> But, there are no African-American former slaves living and no >>> Native Americans living who were transported. The numbers of >>> Native Americans, like the holocaust survivors, who went through >>> enforced acculturation a la Carlisle, are also getting up in >>> years if not all already gone. >>> >>> Even those folks who endured the idiocy that was Jim Crow are >>> getting long in the tooth and will not so much longer be amongst >>> us. >>> >>> After that, scholars and researchers will beaver away and produce >>> their works, and that work will be based upon their interests and >>> what the historical record has for them to interpret. >>> >>> Ned Heite and I were bemoaning the fact that most archaeologists >>> come from an urban or suburban background and are out there >>> interpreting rural farms without any direct experience with and/ >>> or knowledge of them. While not at the same level as folks >>> finding a collection of milk bottles and interpreting it as a >>> cow's nest, the lack of experience inevitably means something >>> will be lost because it is not perceived as meaningful. On the >>> other hand, due to their diverse backgrounds and interests, >>> people will look at farms from economic viewpoints and from other >>> viewpoints that provide insight beyond the straight experiential >>> views. >>> >>> From a personal perspective, I was an (American) site supervisor >>> on a Viking (Scandanavian) site off the north coast of (Gaelic/ >>> British) Scotland. After generations of European folks digging >>> Viking sites, it was my meagre contribution to tease out the >>> chronological sequence of building types for the first time. >>> Contributions to history are not the sole province of those who >>> lived it. >>> >>> Lyle Browning, RPA >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> PC Magazine�s 2007 editors� choice for best Web mail�award- >> winning >> Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/? >> locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > > > --------------------------------- > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.