The board is hopping, wonderful to have a passionate discussion. Let's keep it civil.
Anita
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:28:16 -0400
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> >When you no longer feel the need to sign
> >yourself as "14 generations" of the south, or a "proud" southerner, and
> >consider yourself an American first and foremost
>
> I will take your advice under consideration as soon as YOU stop degrading those who like to think for themselves. Actually, I signed "Proud 14th generation Virginian."
>
> >Obviously, there are a lot of
> >people around the world who disagree with your opinion of my efforts
>
> And I wholeheartedly support their right to do so.
>
> (Mr.) R.B. Jenkins, Ph.D. , D.D.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anne Pemberton<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
>
>
> Mr/Ms. Jenkins,
>
> Give serious consideration that you have read what is not there. I have said
> that the bitterness over the past is still with us, and you have provided an
> excellent demonstration that it is. When you no longer feel the need to sign
> yourself as "14 generations" of the south, or a "proud" southerner, and
> consider yourself an American first and foremost, you will have made a good
> effort towards shedding your explicit arrogance and your sense of ethnic
> superiority. Now, take the mote out of your eye and re-read what I have
> actually written instead of imposing your supposition where they are
> unsupportable.
>
> If you feel that my website is not good enough to earn you praise, you do
> not want to hear that the site draws more than 200,000 users per month, with
> a jump to more than 500,000 during February when apparently a lot of
> students prepare reports on Famous Americans. Obviously, there are a lot of
> people around the world who disagree with your opinion of my efforts. I
> suspect you looked at the site with your right brain in full fury instead of
> applying the logic and deductiveness that your left brain is capable of.
>
> Anne
>
> Anne Pemberton
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hist Docs" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> To: <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
>
>
> >If you are so "proud" of being a 14th generation southerners, I suspect the
> >arrogance is on your side,
>
> Nope; I do not claim ownership of piety and an all-knowing sense of
> morality as your posts imply about yourself.
>
> >It is not the first time that someone has
> >implied that southerners are to be considered superior to those
> >"D-Yankees".
>
> I made no such implication. I merely responded to MY take on your post.
>
> >When one sets aside the centuries of human abuse known as slavery, and
> >looks
> >at the continued abuse under the reign of Jim Crow, one cannot find a
> >single
> >redeeming grace.
>
> Why would one wish to set aside the historic evils of slavery? I certainly
> do not wish to do so. If you would take the time to actually READ a post
> BEFORE you assumed the holier-than-thou position you so frequently assume,
> then you would find that I posted absolutely nothing about the slavery issue
> in my reply to your post.
>
> You like to set double standards; on one hand you preach a need for
> universal freedom and on the other you would deny a person's freedom to
> disagree with ANYTHING you decide to be some foregone truth.
>
> Like Paul Finkleman, I prefer to adddress the Civil War by what it was .
> War of Rebellion; however, I do NOT believe I, nor you, have the right to
> deny others to call it what they wish. BTW, my Southern Grandmother
> referred to it as the war of yankee agression.
>
> You canstantly espouse to the list community all those great and wonderful
> things you do. However, you, too often, jump on someone else's bandwagon.
> Have you ever considered being you? You may not be the most popular person
> by doing so, but you WILL come across to some people (not me unfortunately)
> as a bit more genuine. As for your website .. I've seen better. I've always
> been a student of quiet perseverance, but you seriously bother me with that
> carpet-bagger, self-righteous attitude.
>
> As another poster said: Get over it ... or yourself.
>
> My apologies to the list and should this post get me banned, then so be it.
>
> R.B. Jenkins - Still proud Virginian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anne Pemberton<mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]:[log in to unmask]>>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
>
>
> Mr/Ms Jenkins,
>
> If you are so "proud" of being a 14th generation southerners, I suspect
> the
> arrogance is on your side, not mine. It is you who seems to be thinking
> that
> one side or the other is superior. It is not the first time that someone
> has
> implied that southerners are to be considered superior to those
> "D-Yankees".
> When one sets aside the centuries of human abuse known as slavery, and
> looks
> at the continued abuse under the reign of Jim Crow, one cannot find a
> single
> redeeming grace. Last month I added Mildred Loving to my Famous Americans
> website
> (http://www.educationalsynthesis.org/famamer<http://www.educationalsynthesis.org/famamer<http://www.educationalsynthesis.org/famamer%3Chttp://www.educationalsynthesis.org/famamer>>
> )so that children can
> learn to what extent people went to, to extend the arm of the government
> into the personal lives of the governed (or at least those not lucky
> enough
> to be born into the "right" race). Hopefully children will learn the
> horrors
> inflicted on human lives when governments, federal or state, interfere
> where
> they dare not tread. Perhaps Mildred Loving's story will convince more of
> our youth that setting laws as to what race or gender can marry whichever
> other race or gender, is unacceptable in a Land of Freedom.
>
> Anne
>
>
>
>
> Anne Pemberton
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hist Docs" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]:[log in to unmask]>>>
> To: <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]:[log in to unmask]>>>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
>
>
> "The War of Northern Agression"
>
> And why, might I inquire, would that be so "stupid" to many of us who have
> VERY deep southern roots? I find a certain arrogance in your attitude
> that
> suggests to me you believe yourself, and the "north" in general, superior
> to
> we Southerners.
>
> Glad we Southerners could provide you with a you laugh.
>
> R.B. Jenkins
>
> Proud 14th generation Virginian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anne
> Pemberton<mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]:[log in to unmask]>>>
> To:
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
>
>
> Tom,
>
> I have described the bitterness I have seen in Virginia since this
> "D****d
> Yankee" moved here forty years ago. I call it the Civil War, but have
> heard
> any variety of names, including the stupidest: The War of Northern
> Agression. A sister moved to Texas a few years ago, and we had a good
> laugh
> over the way southerners try to make it sound like they were not at
> fault
> for that bloody conflict.
>
> Anne
>
> Anne Pemberton
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Excalibur131"
> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:Excalibur131@COXNET%3Cmailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]:[log in to unmask]:Excalibur131@COXNET%3Cmailto:Excalibur131@COXNET>>>>
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
>
>
> > Anne,
> >
> > I'm just sitting here wondering, are you bitter?
> >
> > Also, what name would you have us call the "Civil War?"
> >
> > Tom
> > Eastern Shore & More
> >
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