This started out as a discussion of Madisons slaves, and evolved into Islam 
enslaving Africans, and Africans enslaving Africans. My question is what did 
Africa and Islam have to do with Europeans enslaving Indians? I am bringing 
the question back to Virginia, and the question is still out there.

Anita


>From: qvarizona <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history         
>      <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Madison's slaves (and black descendants?)
>Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:37:10 -0700
>
>Anita,
>
>I, too, agree that Harold makes a good point regarding the Slave 
>Narratives,
>but neither his posting nor the one he was responding to have anything to 
>do with putting blame on Africans and Islam for slavery (your words). As to 
>your question:  What did the Africans and Islam have to do with Europeans 
>enslaving Indians?  I don't understand what it has to do with Harold's 
>posting, or the post he is replying to?  If we are going to discuss the 
>"Natives who were enslaved", let's change the subject line.
>
>Joanne
>
>
>
>
>
>Anita Wills <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Harold,
>This is an excellent point. While some posters have blamed Africans and
>Islam for slavery, they do not take into account the Natives who were
>enslaved. What did the Africans and Islam have to do with Europeans
>enslaving Indians?
>
>Anita
>
>
> >From: Debra Jackson/Harold Forsythe
> >Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
> >
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Madison's slaves (and black descendants?)
> >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:50:06 -0400
> >
> >Uh-oh.  Are we forgetting that these were elderly rural people, giving
> >testimony in their old age during the latter half of the Great 
>Depression,
> >and without Social Security (farm workers were denied SS, minimum wage,
> >unemployment, etc?)  Living aged in one of the worst economic times in US
> >history, they remembered their childhoods fondly.  Is this a 
>recommendation
> >for slavery?
> >
> >Harold S. Forsythe
> >----- Original Message ----- From:
> >To:
> >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:01 PM
> >Subject: Re: Madison's slaves (and black descendants?)
> >
> >
> >>You will recall that during our discussion of the WPA Slave Narratives 
>it
> >>appeared that quite a few former slaves recalled fondly their years in
> >>slavery
> >>and the kindness of their masters.  So, from the perspective of former
> >>slaves
> >>it appears that there were indeed "good" slaveowners when judged by the
> >>best
> >>standard possible, those held in slavery.
> >>
> >>J South
> >>
> >>
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