This started out as a discussion of Madisons slaves, and evolved into Islam enslaving Africans, and Africans enslaving Africans. My question is what did Africa and Islam have to do with Europeans enslaving Indians? I am bringing the question back to Virginia, and the question is still out there. Anita >From: qvarizona <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history > <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Madison's slaves (and black descendants?) >Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:37:10 -0700 > >Anita, > >I, too, agree that Harold makes a good point regarding the Slave >Narratives, >but neither his posting nor the one he was responding to have anything to >do with putting blame on Africans and Islam for slavery (your words). As to >your question: What did the Africans and Islam have to do with Europeans >enslaving Indians? I don't understand what it has to do with Harold's >posting, or the post he is replying to? If we are going to discuss the >"Natives who were enslaved", let's change the subject line. > >Joanne > > > > > >Anita Wills <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Harold, >This is an excellent point. While some posters have blamed Africans and >Islam for slavery, they do not take into account the Natives who were >enslaved. What did the Africans and Islam have to do with Europeans >enslaving Indians? > >Anita > > > >From: Debra Jackson/Harold Forsythe > >Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history > > > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: Madison's slaves (and black descendants?) > >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:50:06 -0400 > > > >Uh-oh. Are we forgetting that these were elderly rural people, giving > >testimony in their old age during the latter half of the Great >Depression, > >and without Social Security (farm workers were denied SS, minimum wage, > >unemployment, etc?) Living aged in one of the worst economic times in US > >history, they remembered their childhoods fondly. Is this a >recommendation > >for slavery? > > > >Harold S. Forsythe > >----- Original Message ----- From: > >To: > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:01 PM > >Subject: Re: Madison's slaves (and black descendants?) > > > > > >>You will recall that during our discussion of the WPA Slave Narratives >it > >>appeared that quite a few former slaves recalled fondly their years in > >>slavery > >>and the kindness of their masters. So, from the perspective of former > >>slaves > >>it appears that there were indeed "good" slaveowners when judged by the > >>best > >>standard possible, those held in slavery. > >> > >>J South > >> > >> > >> > >>************************************** See what's free at > >>http://www.aol.com. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. >http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 > > > >--------------------------------- >You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck > in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and much more! http://mobile.msn.com