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Anita Wills <[log in to unmask]>
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I notice that you did not deny it (ummm).

Anita


>From: Clara Callahan <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history         
>      <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Cherokee Election March 3rd Q&A
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 12:51:50 -0800
>
>That's a mighty sweeping statement you're making, and heresay unless you've 
>got something to back it up.
>
>Anita Wills <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  My understanding also, is that 
>the Cherokee receive funding from the US
>Government for other tribes. I am told that the other tribes see little of
>that money, in other words it is mismanaged by the Cherokee. There is 
>little
>oversite by our government, and there should be. The tribes are suffering
>from grinding poverty at the hands of those who are exploiting their
>finances (imho). We should be writing letters of complaint to our
>representatives.
>
>Anita
>
>
> >From: Sunshine49
> >Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
> >
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Cherokee Election March 3rd Q&A
> >Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:33:42 -0500
> >
> >I agree, and while I can be aware of the suspicion that the vote was
> >evidently driven by an agenda and those who were pushing it [and those 
>who
> >bothered to get out and vote], it does seem a sad day for the Tribe as a
> >whole, they will all be tarred by this, including many who no doubt had 
>no
> >racial agenda. They just had better things to do on a nice spring
> >Saturday.
> >
> >Nancy
> >
> >-------
> >I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.
> >
> >--Daniel Boone
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mar 4, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Anita Wills wrote:
> >
> >>You can continue to say that, but the backlash is going to be on the
> >>Cherokee. They were one of the Five Civilized Tribes, those who wanted 
>to
> >>emulate the white man. In the end the white man treated them just like
> >>the rest of the Tribes (the ones they sold out), and sent them on, The
> >>Trail of Tears. The Cherokee are the first to talk about the US
> >>Government not honoring Treaties, and then you do the same thing. You 
>can
> >>keep pointing that finger at the government, but your own leaders are
> >>gloating and bragging (on the news), that this is democracy at work.
> >>What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
> >>
> >>Anita
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: Coats Family History
> >>>Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
> >>>
> >>>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>Subject: Re: Cherokee Election March 3rd Q&A
> >>>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 08:14:14 -0800
> >>>
> >>>Once again this is a Cherokee by Blood issue....Cherokee democracy at
> >>>work...
> >>>
> >>>The Freedment didn't sign the 1866 treaty and the US forced the
> >>>Cherokees to enter into that treaty...
> >>>
> >>>Once again not the Cherokee Nation's fault, the Dawes choose to record
> >>>the information the way they did...
> >>>
> >>>I have no family stories of slaves among my Cherokee ancestors...so I
> >>>admit no knowledge of slaves and their owners....
> >>>
> >>>Charlotte
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On 3/4/07, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >>>>There is a United Cherokee Tribe of Virginia that celebrates their
> >>>>ancestry
> >>>>in the state. They were mostly located in the mountains in the SW part
> >>>>of
> >>>>the state.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Cherokees were slaveowners and while they banned the ownership of
> >>>>Indian
> >>>>slaves in the early 18th century as a tribal matter, they collected 
>and
> >>>> kept
> >>>>Black slaves up until 1866 when that ended via treaty with the US.
> >>>>See,
> >>>>Theda Perdue, Slavery and the Evolution of Cherokee Society. The
> >>>>Cherokee were
> >>>>notoriously cruel slave owners and developed great skill in tracking
> >>>>down
> >>>>runaway slaves for white owners; however some had a habit of killing
> >>>>the Black
> >>>>slaves once they found them and so the Cherokee fell out of favor as
> >>>>slave
> >>>>catchers. Seems like this dislike for their Black brothers goes a
> >>>>ways back.
> >>>>76% is a pretty telling indication of how the tribal members still
> >>>>feel.
> >>>>
>
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