>When you no longer feel the need to sign
>yourself as "14 generations" of the south, or a "proud" southerner, and
>consider yourself an American first and foremost
I will take your advice under consideration as soon as YOU stop degrading those who like to think for themselves. Actually, I signed "Proud 14th generation Virginian."
>Obviously, there are a lot of
>people around the world who disagree with your opinion of my efforts
And I wholeheartedly support their right to do so.
(Mr.) R.B. Jenkins, Ph.D. , D.D.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anne Pemberton<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
Mr/Ms. Jenkins,
Give serious consideration that you have read what is not there. I have said
that the bitterness over the past is still with us, and you have provided an
excellent demonstration that it is. When you no longer feel the need to sign
yourself as "14 generations" of the south, or a "proud" southerner, and
consider yourself an American first and foremost, you will have made a good
effort towards shedding your explicit arrogance and your sense of ethnic
superiority. Now, take the mote out of your eye and re-read what I have
actually written instead of imposing your supposition where they are
unsupportable.
If you feel that my website is not good enough to earn you praise, you do
not want to hear that the site draws more than 200,000 users per month, with
a jump to more than 500,000 during February when apparently a lot of
students prepare reports on Famous Americans. Obviously, there are a lot of
people around the world who disagree with your opinion of my efforts. I
suspect you looked at the site with your right brain in full fury instead of
applying the logic and deductiveness that your left brain is capable of.
Anne
Anne Pemberton
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From: "Hist Docs" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
To: <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
>If you are so "proud" of being a 14th generation southerners, I suspect the
>arrogance is on your side,
Nope; I do not claim ownership of piety and an all-knowing sense of
morality as your posts imply about yourself.
>It is not the first time that someone has
>implied that southerners are to be considered superior to those
>"D-Yankees".
I made no such implication. I merely responded to MY take on your post.
>When one sets aside the centuries of human abuse known as slavery, and
>looks
>at the continued abuse under the reign of Jim Crow, one cannot find a
>single
>redeeming grace.
Why would one wish to set aside the historic evils of slavery? I certainly
do not wish to do so. If you would take the time to actually READ a post
BEFORE you assumed the holier-than-thou position you so frequently assume,
then you would find that I posted absolutely nothing about the slavery issue
in my reply to your post.
You like to set double standards; on one hand you preach a need for
universal freedom and on the other you would deny a person's freedom to
disagree with ANYTHING you decide to be some foregone truth.
Like Paul Finkleman, I prefer to adddress the Civil War by what it was .
War of Rebellion; however, I do NOT believe I, nor you, have the right to
deny others to call it what they wish. BTW, my Southern Grandmother
referred to it as the war of yankee agression.
You canstantly espouse to the list community all those great and wonderful
things you do. However, you, too often, jump on someone else's bandwagon.
Have you ever considered being you? You may not be the most popular person
by doing so, but you WILL come across to some people (not me unfortunately)
as a bit more genuine. As for your website .. I've seen better. I've always
been a student of quiet perseverance, but you seriously bother me with that
carpet-bagger, self-righteous attitude.
As another poster said: Get over it ... or yourself.
My apologies to the list and should this post get me banned, then so be it.
R.B. Jenkins - Still proud Virginian
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From: Anne Pemberton<mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
Mr/Ms Jenkins,
If you are so "proud" of being a 14th generation southerners, I suspect
the
arrogance is on your side, not mine. It is you who seems to be thinking
that
one side or the other is superior. It is not the first time that someone
has
implied that southerners are to be considered superior to those
"D-Yankees".
When one sets aside the centuries of human abuse known as slavery, and
looks
at the continued abuse under the reign of Jim Crow, one cannot find a
single
redeeming grace. Last month I added Mildred Loving to my Famous Americans
website
(http://www.educationalsynthesis.org/famamer<http://www.educationalsynthesis.org/famamer<http://www.educationalsynthesis.org/famamer%3Chttp://www.educationalsynthesis.org/famamer>>
)so that children can
learn to what extent people went to, to extend the arm of the government
into the personal lives of the governed (or at least those not lucky
enough
to be born into the "right" race). Hopefully children will learn the
horrors
inflicted on human lives when governments, federal or state, interfere
where
they dare not tread. Perhaps Mildred Loving's story will convince more of
our youth that setting laws as to what race or gender can marry whichever
other race or gender, is unacceptable in a Land of Freedom.
Anne
Anne Pemberton
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From: "Hist Docs" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]:[log in to unmask]>>>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
"The War of Northern Agression"
And why, might I inquire, would that be so "stupid" to many of us who have
VERY deep southern roots? I find a certain arrogance in your attitude
that
suggests to me you believe yourself, and the "north" in general, superior
to
we Southerners.
Glad we Southerners could provide you with a you laugh.
R.B. Jenkins
Proud 14th generation Virginian
----- Original Message -----
From: Anne
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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
Tom,
I have described the bitterness I have seen in Virginia since this
"D****d
Yankee" moved here forty years ago. I call it the Civil War, but have
heard
any variety of names, including the stupidest: The War of Northern
Agression. A sister moved to Texas a few years ago, and we had a good
laugh
over the way southerners try to make it sound like they were not at
fault
for that bloody conflict.
Anne
Anne Pemberton
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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
> Anne,
>
> I'm just sitting here wondering, are you bitter?
>
> Also, what name would you have us call the "Civil War?"
>
> Tom
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