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Tim Spradling <[log in to unmask]>
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Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history." <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent:  10/16/2011 10:43:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: Linking Richard  PUCKET(T), SR. of Henrico Co., VA to his Son, 
Richard, JR.


Margie, I don't know if V.A. is male or female. As far as doing what V.  A. 
suggested in Augusta, I doubt the Virginia Order Books are there. You may  
have to wait till I go to LVA in November for this free search for you. I'm  
copying this email reply to you to V. A. and Brownie also to see if  they 
have any/further suggestions for linking Richard PUCKET(T), SR. to  his Son 
Richard PUCKET(T), JR. Your (and V. A.'s previous information)  follows:
____________________________________________________________________________
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Margie's information for Brownie and V. A.: According to the  Bristol 
Parish Vestry Book and Register, 1720-1789 (Prince George County, Va  page 349  
shows a record of the birth of a son, Richard, to Richard and  Martha Puckett 
on March 7, 1718
 
A record dated October 5, 1725 in the Chesterfield County, Orphans  Court 
states “the church wardens of Bristol Parish hath bound Richard Puckett,  
orphan of Richard Puckett unto John Puckett his uncle.
 
Richard Puckett Senior:
From Henrico County, VA. Will Book 1725-1737 page 675 “Settlement of  the 
Estate of Richard Puckett” , 1st Monday in December, 1737.  To  Martha, his 
wife, John Puckett presented the account.
 
 
Tim, I can’t express how much I appreciate your help, I have been  invited 
to join the Colonial Dames, but I have to prove my connections between  
Richard Puckett, Sr and Richard Puckett, Jr.  I have documentation from  Richard 
Puckett, Sr back to England. Also, I have documented from me back to  James 
Puckett Senior son of Richard Puckett Junior.  My problem is  Richard Sr 
and Richard Jr.  
 
The Bristol Parish Vestry Book shows a Richard Puckett and wife  Martha 
having a son Richard, then Richard Jr is an orphan and Bristol Parish  Church 
gives him to his uncle John Puckett, which is the John that handles the  
estate, but proof stops there.   I need to find some type of  documentation 
showing this Richard connected in some way to his mother or  father, either by 
Will, Estate records, land records or even what happened to  Richard after 
his uncle was give custody.
____________________________________________________________________________
 
For Brownie from V.A.: The information she gave you is correct, but  the 
microfilm stinks.

This is the settlement.  John Pucket  presented the account.

The account begins in 1719. Payments made to  
Maj. John Bolling deceased
Joshua Irby
John Peter  Bondurant
Richard Kennon deceased
Edward Bass
Henry Charles  Fetherston
Thomas Eldridge
George Willson
Col. William  Randolph
John Worsham Sheriff
funeral charges
Ditto of Martha his  Wife
the Clerks fee on the probate
the Secretary on  Ditto
3 appraisers of the Estate

From this...
1.  Richard  Pucket(t) died ca. 1719, testate, but the will is lost.  This 
appears  from the use of the word Probate in the Clerk's fee, not  
administration.
2.  His widow, Martha, died ca 1737 (before  1st  Mon in Dec 1737).
3.  Her death determined the estate of her husband  by extinguishing the 
life estate given her by the will.
4.  John  Pucket presented the account, but it does not say whether he was 
the executor  or an after-appointed administrator with the will annexed.  
[see  below]

There is no will index for wills prior to the Revolution; it  starts with 
Will Book 1, 1781.
 
You have not specified what specific item(s) you are attempting to prove  
by the will.  If you need more precise dates, or relationships, the only  
remaining sources are (1) the Miscellaneous Records.  Microfilm reels 2  and 3 
cover pages 363 through 1066 (from 1718 through 1737).  No index  there 
either.  

OR (2) the court order books (looking for  litigation involving the estate 
of Richard Pucket(t) deceased.  See,  e.g., Order Book 1737-1746, p 119 (Aug 
1740).  There, John Pucket is  identified as executor of Richard Pucket 
deceased, and is ordered to be  summoned to appear at the next court to answer 
the petition of Richard  Pucket.   You would have to follow the case through 
the order  book.

From Me to Brownie and V. A.: I didn't read the statement correctly  Margie 
made about the entry in the Will Book that V. A. sent me. It  clearly 
stated this was a Settlement and not a Will. I also had trouble  reading the 
Settlement and assumed Margie had given me the wrong page #  (675). V. A. read 
it (and gave the information above) and said  Margie's information was right. 
V.A. suggested the unindexed  miscellaneous papers and order book search 
since there is a  lost Will for Richard SR. (which may have mentioned Richard, 
JR. as a  Son). 
____________________________________________________________________________
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My comments: Perhaps there is a Will for Martha, but having no index (V.  
A.'s information) it would be hard to find. Likewise, there is no index for  
the miscellaneous papers suggested by V. A. I have an example in my line  
where an indexed order book gave the Father of a Son, so the indexed order  
books suggested by V. A. might be a good source to connect the two  Richards.
 
The time line for Richard, Sr. and JR. could be as follows: William,  
Richard SR.'s Father, was born in 1657 (Margie's information). A generation  
being 25 years,  gives a birth date of ~ 1673 for Richard, SR.  Likewise for 
Richard, JR. a birth date would be ~ 1698 (the Vestry book  information above 
says March 7, 1718 though). V. A.'s  information above  states Richard, SR. 
died ~ 1719, testate. Margie's information above says  Richard, JR. was 
given, as an orphan (under age 21) to his Uncle, John  PUCKET(T) in 1725. Martha 
PUCKET(T), Richard, SR.'s Wife (and first Cousin),  died  ~1737, before the 
Estate settlement took place (V.A.'s  information). Therefore a Tithable's 
search for Richard, JR. will  only link him to John, his Uncle, I believe. 
 
I will look at the PUCKET(T)'s in the Deed Books also in order to  possibly 
establish a connection. 
 
Any other suggestions for Me and Margie would be appreciated.
 
Regards, Tim Spradling









In a message dated 10/15/2011 11:09:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

 
Tim, reading the e-mail from [log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask])   is there a  way I  can do what she suggests from Augusta, GA;
You have  not specified what specific item(s) you are attempting to prove 
by the will.  If you need more precise dates, or relationships, the only 
remaining sources  are (1) the Miscellaneous Records. Microfilm reels 2 and 3 
cover pages 363  through 1066 (from 1718 through 1737). No index there either. 

OR (2)  the court order books (looking for litigation involving the estate 
of  Richard Pucket(t) deceased. See, e.g., Order Book 1737-1746, p 119 (Aug  
1740). There, John Pucket is identified as executor of Richard Pucket  
deceased, and is ordered to be summoned to appear at the next court to  answer 
the petition of Richard Pucket. You would have to follow the case  through 
the order book.
 
 



 

 
From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])  
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:12 PM
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])  
Cc: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])  
Subject: Re: p 675, Henrico D&W 1725-37


 

 
Thanks so much for your assistance V. A. It was very hard to read,  which 
is why I didn't recognize Richard's name. The Lady I'm trying to help,  
Margie Puckett Barron (I'm copying her on this email reply to you), is  looking 
for one of Richard's Children (A Richard, who she already connects  to). She 
thought this was his Will (which I see was lost from your comments)  and not 
a settlement. 
 
I will pursue the order books you suggest at LVA, as well as Deed Books  to 
see if Richard, JR. was involved with his Father in some kind of  
transaction. I will also look at the Henrico Tithables, as he may pop out of  his 
Father's Household (or Mother's household if he is not 18 before his  Father 
dies) when he becomes taxable.
 
Best regards, Tim
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/15/2011 9:25:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

The  information she gave you is correct, but the microfilm stinks.

This  is the settlement.  John Pucket presented the account.

The  account begins in 1719. Payments made to 
Maj. John Bolling  deceased
Joshua Irby
John Peter Bondurant
Richard Kennon  deceased
Edward Bass
Henry Charles Fetherston
Thomas  Eldridge
George Willson
Col. William Randolph
John Worsham  Sherif
funeral  charges
Ditto of Martha his  Wife
the Clerks fee on the probate
the Secretary  on Ditto
3 appraisers of the Estate

From this...
1.   Richard Pucket(t) died ca. 1719, testate, but the will is lost.  This  
appears from the use of the word Probate in the Clerk's fee, not  
administration.
2.  His widow, Martha, died ca 1737 (before   1st Mon in Dec 1737).
3.  Her death determined the estate of her  husband by extinguishing the 
life estate given her by the  will.
4.  John Pucket presented the account, but it does not say  whether he was 
the executor or an after-appointed administrator with the  will annexed.  
[see below]

There is no will index for wills  prior to the Revolution; it starts with 
Will Book 1, 1781.

You have  not specified what specific item(s) you are attempting to prove 
by the  will.  If you need more precise dates, or relationships, the only  
remaining sources are (1) the Miscellaneous Records.  Microfilm reels  2 and 3 
cover pages 363 through 1066 (from 1718 through 1737).  No  index there 
either.  

OR (2) the court order books (looking  for litigation involving the estate 
of Richard Pucket(t) deceased.   See, e.g., Order Book 1737-1746, p 119 (Aug 
1740).  There, John  Pucket is identified as executor of Richard Pucket 
deceased, and is  ordered to be summoned to appear at the next court to answer 
the petition  of Richard Pucket.   You would have to follow the case through 
 the order book.



On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 7:14 PM, <[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:


On second thought V.A., I think this may be to much to ask (unless  you 
have an index). I will be at LVA in November and can check it out in  the Will 
Index for the right page number. Thanks, Tim 
 

 

 
In a message dated 10/15/2011 7:01:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])  writes:

Thanks so much. The person I am trying to help is trying to get  into some 
kind of organization. She must have the wrong page #, as  this is not for a 
Richard PUCKETT. Could you please look a little  further in your Will Book 
for Richard PUCKETT's Will? Here's the  information she gave me: 
Richard Puckett Senior: From  Henrico County, VA. Will Book 1725-1737 page 
675 “Settlement of the  Estate of Richard Puckett” , 1st Monday in 
December, 1737.  To  Martha, his wife, John Puckett presented the account.
). 
 
Best regards, Tim Spradling
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/15/2011 6:09:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])  writes:

Item you seek at bottom of  page.


















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