Here are illustrations of the thorn written and printed and the crossed mp and thorn shown similarly. I have had a tad of trouble with my on-line storage, so I hope these will open for you. Paul
http://webpages.charter.net/pdd50/thorn.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/pdd50/crossedpthorn.jpg
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Ye Elder
I am looking forward to seeing the "thorn". Also, reading the old English
documents (wills, etc), using Ye, is interesting. We are fortunate, my
husband and I, to have several early ancestors of Colonial VA where these
records were kept. Audrey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Drake" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Ye Elder
> Sorry Bob. With the greatest respect, you misread what I wrote. Try
> reading it ALL again. I said that the word "the" was pronounced then and
> now as we do today, and was written with a "thorn" plus the letter "e". I
> then said in the second message that in some fundamentalist religious
> disciplines the word "you", whether singular or plural, was the word "ye"
> (pronounced "yee").
>
> Not only was that true, but it still is. In the Amish communities within
> a couple dozen miles from me and in NE Ohio, as well as in the Mennonite
> communities across the South and elsewhere, especially during their
> "meetings", the expressions "ye are sinners", "all of ye must abide by the
> scriptures", etc, etc. are heard with the greatest frequency. They are
> saying "you" or "you all" and are using the sound "yee", as said, as a
> pronoun, whether the reference is to one person or to several.
>
> So, there was the word "the" spelled thorn-e, meaning that or some
> specific object, and the word "ye" or "yee", being a pronoun, and
> pronounced as spelled.
>
> For the benefit of those who may not be familiar, after while I will post
> a scanned copy of the "thorn" as it appears in Johnson's 1755 "Dictionary
> of the English Language".
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Juch
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> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Ye Elder
>
>
> Paul,
>
> Sorry, but you're dead wrong on Þis.
>
>
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