Bill I did check out the website you listed below and the information looks like the information I have on my database which I have shared to people in the past. Janice In a message dated 7/19/2012 10:17:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I also show that Francis Smith married Letty Nuphus/Nuphis and that Edward Smith married Lettice Green. I have also wondered, however, if Nuphus/Nuphis was TRULY the correct spelling of the name (but who knows)? I suspect that this was the same Francis Smith who appeared on the 1810 Essex Co., VA census. Below is a link to what APPEARS to be a pretty good file on Edward Smith and Lettice Green (though I do not know how accurate this file is): http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1826179&id=I85368 352 I believe that the above-mentioned Francis Smith in Essex Co., VA was a descendant of the Colonel Francis Smith (son of a Nicholas Smith, as I recall) who married first to Lucy Meriwether and second to Ann/Anne Adams. DNA testing on living male Smith descendants shows that Colonel Francis Smith....who had a daughter who married a Mr. Webb in Essex Co., VA....was NOT related to the Samuel Smith who married a SISTER of that Mr. Webb. That Samuel Smith was a known/proven descendant of the Alexander Smith who was in Lancaster Co., VA by at least the 1650s, and there are four male Smiths from that overall family who have taken the DNA test....and all four men have "matching" DNA. The lone (the last time that I checked, anyway) DNA donor who "traces back" to Colonel Francis Smith, however, has DNA that is quite different from the above four descendants of Alexander Smith (and there is also nothing in any "conventional documentation"....other than the above-mentioned "common marriage" into the same Webb family....that seems to suggest that those two Smith families were/are "blood related"). I have no strong reason to believe that the above Edward Smith was related to either Alexander Smith or Colonel Francis Smith, and I have not attempted to determine if any male Smith descendant of that Edward Smith has ever taken the Y chromosome DNA test. There was a Mary Smith (age 45 or older) who was also on the 1810 Essex Co., VA census (she was listed as the head of the household, though that census also showed that a male age 45 or older also lived there). Does anyone know just who that Mary Smith was (and/or what her maiden name was, assuming that "Smith" was her married name)? There were also a couple of John Smiths on the Essex Co., VA census in 1810 and/or in 1820 (one of them was one "age range" older than the other, per the 1820 census, as I recall). I have reasons to believe that both of them were PROBABLY also descendants of the above Alexander Smith. A John Smith was mentioned in a chancery court decree in January 1822, and he was deceased at that time. That decree was providing the specific directions on how the heirs of that John Smith were to be given the remnants of the estate of John Smith's deceased father (who was Major Maurice Smith, who had married the widow Mrs. Catherine (Carter) Jones; the Major had left his Will in Middlesex Co., VA in 1795). The referenced John Smith had married Sarah Waller, and Sarah was a daughter of Judge Benjamin Waller of "Williamsburg fame." Major Maurice Smith was a known/proven descendant of the referenced Alexander Smith, and two of the Major's daughters also married into the Webb family (a William Crittenden Webb), as I recall. The other/younger John Smith in Essex Co., VA in 1810 and 1820 MIGHT have been the John Smith who married Mary Dunn, a daughter of John and Judith (Edmondson) Dunn (though that John Smith and Mary Dunn had a son of their own who was also named John Smith....actually John Hancock Smith). If anyone has any informmation on that John Smith and Mary Dunn and their family, please let me know. That John Smith COULD have been the biological father of my maternal gg-grandfather named Smith W. Brown (born about 1817). DNA testing, combined with "conventional research," show that Smith W. Brown was actually a "blood Smith infant/toddler" who was taken-in, named and reared by John and Mary (Bennett) Brown (and the DNA from a male "Brown" descendant of Smith W. Brown is a "match" to the DNA from the known descendants of Alexander Smith). By the way, this Mrs. Mary (Bennett) Brown had a brother who was named SMITH Bennett, so this Bennett family apparently had some "close connection" to the Smith family....and that "connection" apparently was the reason that they ultimately took-in a Smith infant/toddler. No proof whatsoever, but I think that it is at least possible that Mary Bennett's mother Mrs. Winifred "Winnie" (Unknown....but MAYBE "Dunn") Bennett was a member of the same overall Dunn family as the Mary Dunn who married John Smith. "Winifred" was a VERY common given name in that Dunn family (going back to the Miss Winifred Waters who married William Dunn "II"). Comments on any of the above? 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