Bill I think the Smith's you are referring to are not connected to my Smiths. I also have not proved the parent of my Edward Smith, Sr. who married Lettice Green. I have proved Lettice Green's family. Here are some notes I have on Edward Smith, Sr. and sources. Notes: Ancestors and Descendants of Smiths by Cheek In1700, Burr Harrison I, Stafford records included a request by Burr Harrison to be appointed guardian to the children of Edward Smith, he having married the widow who was now deceased. On Oct 1702 Burr Harrison as guardian of William, Edward and Katherine Smith, children of Edward and Lettice Smith, and grandchildren of Ann Scarlett of Stafford, and refer to the sale of land to George Mason. "Harrison of North Virginia" by W. G. Stanard There is an immigration record for an Edward Smith. Edward Smith....-Age 20 in Virginia Muster, February 4, 1624/5 Passengers from the Port of London on the George to Virginia Smith, Edward...................20 (Proctor servant) Arrived on the George in 1621 22 July 1694 Approbation of the following persons as duputy-lieutenants of the county of Gloucester Edward Smith, Esq. Genealogy Quest To add, Edward Smith, Jr. is proved through his marriage to Mary Bell and his will. In that will he names Mary Bell, his wife, and the land she inherited from her father Roger Bell. Mary was probably born about 1700 in King & Queen co., because in the 1704 Quit Rent Roll in that county Roger Bell had land there. She probably died about 1776. Her husband Edward Smith was probably born 1693 Stafford County and died Sept 23, 1756, Orange county. There children were: Thomas, Ambrose, John, Isabelle and Elizabeth. Here is the notes and information I have on Edward Smith. The Smith Family Ancestors & Descendants of Smith's By Linda G. Cheek Edward Smith, Sr. Died: 1698 Stafford County, Va. Married: Lettice Green, she (M) 2nd Burr Harrison, born 1637, died 1706 Stafford County, Va. Daughter of Ann & William Green Married 2nd: Jane Calvert Children 1. Catherine Smith m. John Hancock of Fairfax County, Va. He died 1740. 2. William Smith m. Lettice Barton, first cousin, daughter of Ann Green (sister to Lettice Green Smith) and Edward Barton. 3. James Smith 4. John Smith no children, estate to brother Edward smith, Jr. of Stafford County, Va. 5. Edward Smith, Jr. died will 1756 Orange County, Va. m. Mary Bell, daughter of Roger Bell. Children 1. John Smith 2. Isabell Smith 3. Elizabeth Smith 4. Ambrose Smith left a will in Orange County, Va. in 1770 Sept. 2, 1732. William Bohannan and Sarah, his wife, of St. Stephen's Pariah, King & Queen Co., to Edward Smith of same Parish and County, Boe 10 5s. Curr., 200 a. in St. George's Parish, Spots. County---part of pat. Granted John Cook Sept. 28, 1728. R. BELL, Robert x Tunwell, Eliza. x Bell. Sept. 5, 1732. (Spotsylvania County Records) Edward Smith was the son-in-law of ROGER BELL, Sr. Will, left to wife Mary Smith, "land which was left to her by her father Roger Bell and which I sold to William Cleaton. Witnesses, Roger and John Bell". A land transfer by the widow shows children, Ambrose, Isabella and Elizabeth, wife of James Atkins. (Orange County Families) Deed Book 1 & 2 1735-1738 Pages 350-55. 24-25 May 1738. Daniel Cook and Hester his wife of St. Mark's Parish, Orange Couty, to EDWARD SMITH of St. Stephen's Parish, King and Queen County. Lease and release; for L 7 current money. 100 acres in the fork of Purmunkey River.... in John Henderson's line... Daniel (A) Cook Hester (E) Cook Wit: ROGER BELL, Thomas (T) Burgis, Abraham Mayfield. 25 May 1738. Acknowledged by Daniel Cook. On motion of ROGER BELL admitted to record. Extract of the Will Of Edward Smith 17th day of Sept. 1755 Item: I give to my son John Smith & my daughter Isabell Smith 200 a. of land lying in Orange Co. in St Thomas Parish in the fork of Parmunky adjoining the land of John Henderson in the aforesaid Co. purchased from William Bohannon to be equally divided between them with all conveniences, my daughter Isabell having first choice. Item: It is my desire if my son John Smith shall by any claim or right to 100a. of land which I sold to Wm. Cleaton lying in the fork of Marrowcoca Creek left by ROGER BELL to his daughter MARY SMITH, the wife of Edward Smith & reover the aforesaid land by law, then it is my desire that the aforesaid 100 a. of land which I pay a bond which I gave Wm. Cleaton in Marrowcoca Creek my son Ambrose Smith having the renarson of money more than complied with aforesaid bond: the aforesaid land to the highest bidder. Item: I give to my daughter Elizabeth Atkins the wife of James Atkins, one hundred acres that I purchased of Daniel Cook in the Co. and Par. aforesaid adjoining to the land of Samuel Brockman. Item: I give unto my son Ambrose Smith 150 a. of land in the Co. & Par. aforesaid, lying in the S. side of the North Hannah River in the fork of the Purmunkey adjoining the land of ROGER BELL. Item: The rest of my personable estate in what place whatsoever, I give to my wife Mary Smith during her widowhood, but if she is disposed to marry, then it is my desire that my personable estate be equally divided amongst my aforementioned children & my wife having an equal part. Item: Lastly, I appoint my wife Mary Smith and my son Ambrose Smith & in case of his demise, the next heir in law, Exors. of my last will. Sept. 17, 1755 Edward Smith Signed in presence of ROGER BELL JOHN BELL The abstract of the will of Edward Smith mentions a possible argument over who gets the land given by Roger Bell dec'd to his daughter Mary. So Edward Smith m. Mary Bell, dau.of Roger Bell, Sr.. I suspect Roger Bell, Sr. never lived in Orange Co., Va. and his will was probated in King & Queen Co., Va. He probably died years before Smith's will was written.Smith's will says "land given his daughter Mary". That suggests to me that Mary wasn't married yet when her father wrote the will. This JOHN BELL who witnessed the will is probably the son of ROGER BELL. Marrowcoca Creek in Edward Smith's will was probably Maracosic. It runs from northwest of Bowling Green (county seat of Caroline) to the southeast until it runs into the Mattaponi River. Maracosia Creek is now part of the current boundary between Caroline and K & Q, although more of the Creek was located in King & Queen in 1735. Drysdale Parish was in the western part od K & Q. At a court held for Orange Co. on the 23rd day of Sept.1756. This will was presented into court by Mary Smith & Ambrose Smith Exors. therein named & proved by oaths of ROGER BELL & JOHN BELL, witnesses thereto & ordered to be recorded. On the motion of these Exors. who made oath according to Law Certificate was granted therefore obtaining Letters of Probate in due form giving security on which they with ROGER BELL & Charles Smith their securities entered into and acknowledged their bond according to law. Test George Taylor, Clerk Who was Charles Smith mentioned above. Some Smith notes came from "Ancestors and Descendants of Smiths, by Linda G. Cheek April 27, 1723, John Beale testator to will of Edward Smith, Annapolis. Md. Cal. Wills. Vol. V, folis 144 1723, John Beale executor to will Mary Smith, widow, Annapolis. Md. Cal. Wills, folis 171 sources Bladen County N.C. wills Orange County Va. Wills Fairfax County, Va. Wills Mrs.E.K. Thrawley ( gave up research) S.C. Genealogical Society Lineage Chart Volume II 92a and 154 Linda G. Cheek Route 8 Box 48 Easley, S.C.29640 Janice In a message dated 7/19/2012 10:18:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Janice, There was an Edward Smith who was a witness on the 1723 Will of the Thomas Smith who apparently married Anne Gregory. I believe that was in Lancaster/Middlesex Co., VA, but I would have to check my notes to be sure (could have been Gloucester Co., VA). There was also an Edward Smith who was a witness on the 1727 Will of a John Smith of Middlesex Co., VA. That John Smith was a son of an older John Smith (who died in the 1660s, as I recall) who was married to a Maragret Unknown. That John Smith was a neighbor of "my" Alexander Smith (my maternal line; Alexander Smith died around 1696 in Middlesex Co., VA), but we have no proof as to whether or not those two neighboring Smith families were "blood related" to one another....though those two neighboring Smith families eventually intermarried. Note: Alexander Smith and his unknown wife (though some claim that she was a Miss Cock/Cocke) had a son who was also named John Smith. That son was typically "styled" as Lt. John Smith, and he married the widow Mrs. Jane (Cock/Cocke) Jones. His neighbor who was also named John Smith (i.e., the son of John and Margaret (Unknown) Smith) was typically "styled" as Captain John Smith....and he was the above John Smith who left his Will in 1727 (which was witnessed by an Edward Smith). While John and Margaret (Unknown) Smith had another son who was named Thomas Smith (who married Ann Petty), the Thomas Smith mentioned above who married Anne Gregory was apparently a son of a different (and PROBABLY unrelated) John Smith who married Elizabeth Berry....and there is little to suggest that this John Smith/Elizabeth Berry family was related to the Middlesex Co., VA neighbors Alexander Smith and the John Smith who was married to a Margaret Unknown (but no proof). Do you have any idea if the above witnesses on those two Wills were the SAME Edward Smith, or was that more likely two different Edward Smiths? Was at least one of those witnesses "your" Edward Smith who married Lettice Green, or is that not likely? I see from some posts on GenForum that some researchers have shown that "your" Edward Smith was a son of a Joseph Smith who left his Will in Essex Co., VA in the 1720s, as I recall. Do you agree with that? If I remember correctly, that Will showed that "your" Edward Smith had a brother who was yet another John Smith. Some have also claimed that "my" Alexander Smith, who was in Lancaster/Middlesex Co., VA by at least the 1650s, was also a son of a Joseph Smith, but I have never found any strong evidence to support that. Comments on any of the above? Thanks, Bill To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html