How can I find information on members of colonial militia who participated in the French and Indian Wars (1754-63) including Braddock's expedition (1755), Pontiac War (1763-1766), Battle of Bushy Run (Aug 5-6, 1763? I believe these would be considered service for Britain and therefore not at NARA.. Ev In a message dated 7/27/2010 11:58:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: There are 5 messages totalling 393 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. An explanation, please (3) 2. Discussion of Land owned in 1777 by Loyalist in Virginia and taken by the Commonwealth (2) To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:55:32 -0700 From: Bill <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An explanation, please Nel, If I remember right/don't hold me to this... there was a boundary dispute between PA and VA in this area. There were certificates in right of settlement given by the Commissioners for the Adjusting Titles to Unpatented Lands in the District of Monongahela, Yohogania & Ohio (maybe West Augusta also). I had the same thing on William Williams land on Buffalo creek in Ohio County and it meant that he had claimed/squatted on x acres, built a dwelling and was living on the land and then when it was surveyed (probably needed due to an increasing encroaching population) he was granted additional land surrounding, protecting and including his original settlement. Bill Good -----Original Message----- From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of nelhatch Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 5:18 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [VA-ROOTS] An explanation, please HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm When confronted by a difficult problem, you can solve it more easily by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger have handled this?" - Unknown This is from a Northern Neck Land Grant. Zane, Jonathan. 15 May 1784. Available on microfilm. Virginia State Land Office. Grants A-Z, 1-124, reels 42-190; Virginia State Land Office. Grants 125- , reels 369-. Location: Ohio County. Description: 140 acres on the River Ohio and Wheeling Creek including his settlement made in 1776. What does "including his settlement made in 1776" mean? Thanks! Nel Hatcher To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:19:34 -0400 From: Janice <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An explanation, please The original material sounded to me as if the acreage included a parcel of land already his by right of a decision, legal suit, legatee of a will etc. The explanation given of it as including land he previously settled on makes sense if you read it as an archaic phrase. Janice On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:15 PM, mnicholson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I don't understand, either. Please explain. m > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:08 PM > Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] An explanation, please > > > Thank you, Kathy. That's not at all what I thought it might mean :-) > > Nel To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:26:20 -0700 From: Alice Owens <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Discussion of Land owned in 1777 by Loyalist in Virginia and taken by the Commonwealth Hi List Mates I could sure use some assistance in understanding the circumstances pertain= ing to the below document. 1)=A0 May we assume the person owning the property was no longer in this ar= ea? 2)=A0 If he had remained in the area, what punishment/penalty would he have= met? 3) Can anyone point me to the law of the General Assembly this is referring= to?=A0=20 4) Does anyone know precisely when this started and ended? I am removing the name of=A0 the land owner (loyalist) and the county from = this document.=A0 I don't think this should make any difference, but if it = should let me know and I will be glad to share privately. This Indented Deed of Inquest Taken before Thomas Napier Escheater for the = County of XXXXXXXXX bey John Handcock, Henry Haislip, Duncan McLuchlan, Rob= ert Allen, Richard Napier, William Barnet, James Cole, Pat: Napier, Thos Li= nthicum, Robert Knight,=A0 Fisher Rice Bennett, John Williamson, Jurors, go= od and lawful men of the said County, having met on the premises and impann= alled, were tryed and sworn the truth to speak wheather the Estate real and= personal once of the property of [name removed] of the Kingdom of Great Br= itain Escheats to the Common Wealth the jurors having hear and considered t= he matter do say, That [name removed] is a Subject of Britain and is sound = Seized in fee simple of two hundred acres of Land within this county Joinin= g the lines of Benjj. Bellamey, Jon Moore, and John Pace, which Escheats to= the Commonwealth agreeable to act of Assembly concerning escheats and forf= eitures frm British Subjects.=A0 In Witness whereof the Escheater and Jurors have hereunto Set their hands and Seals this 3rd day of September 1= 779.=A0 And in the fourth year of the Commonwealth. Thos. Napier=A0 {Seal}=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 John Handc= ock {Seal} =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Henry Haislip =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Duncan Mcclochlin =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Robert Allen =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Richard Napier =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 William Barnett =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 James Cole =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Patk: Napier =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Thos. Linthicum =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Thos Appleberry =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 F. Rice Bennett =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 John=A0 Williamson =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 At a court held for [county name removed] on Thursday the Seventh day of Oc= tober 1779. Thi Inquisition was this day returned by John Handcock, the fir= st Juror impannelld on the Inquest and by the Court ordered to be Recorded. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Teste= John Cobbs CC =0A=0A=0A To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:06:00 -0400 From: "Jones, Louise (LVA)" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Discussion of Land owned in 1777 by Loyalist in Virginia and taken by the Commonwealth Alice, You should check "Hening's Statutes At Law". See address below. =20 http://vagenweb.org/hening/ Type "British land" in the "Search Engine" block and you will get a list = of entries. The second one is the index page. =20 "2. Hening's Statutes at Large land-warrants, felony without clergy 65: Lands of British subjects = vested ... Grants for escheated lands, how obtained 68: How lands = acquired for public ... his entailed lands 103: -- Vestry vagenweb.org/hening/vol10-32.htm" Page 623 of the index has the entry "Lands of British subjects vested in = commonwealth, by escheat 67:" Click on the number "67" and it will lead = you to the information. The information continues for a number of = pages. You might want to read the other information about "Kentucky", = "Land-Bounty", "Land Office" and "Lands" that are listed in the index. = You will find the answer to your question and a whole lot of more = information. Louise Jones -----Original Message----- From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history. = [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alice Owens Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:26 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [VA-ROOTS] Discussion of Land owned in 1777 by Loyalist in = Virginia and taken by the Commonwealth Hi List Mates I could sure use some assistance in understanding the circumstances = pertaining to the below document. 1)=A0 May we assume the person owning the property was no longer in this = area? 2)=A0 If he had remained in the area, what punishment/penalty would he = have met? 3) Can anyone point me to the law of the General Assembly this is = referring to?=A0=20 4) Does anyone know precisely when this started and ended? I am removing the name of=A0 the land owner (loyalist) and the county = from this document.=A0 I don't think this should make any difference, = but if it should let me know and I will be glad to share privately. This Indented Deed of Inquest Taken before Thomas Napier Escheater for = the County of XXXXXXXXX bey John Handcock, Henry Haislip, Duncan = McLuchlan, Robert Allen, Richard Napier, William Barnet, James Cole, = Pat: Napier, Thos Linthicum, Robert Knight,=A0 Fisher Rice Bennett, John = Williamson, Jurors, good and lawful men of the said County, having met = on the premises and impannalled, were tryed and sworn the truth to speak = wheather the Estate real and personal once of the property of [name = removed] of the Kingdom of Great Britain Escheats to the Common Wealth = the jurors having hear and considered the matter do say, That [name = removed] is a Subject of Britain and is sound Seized in fee simple of = two hundred acres of Land within this county Joining the lines of Benjj. = Bellamey, Jon Moore, and John Pace, which Escheats to the Commonwealth = agreeable to act of Assembly concerning escheats and forfeitures frm = British Subjects.=A0 In Witness whereof the Escheater and Jurors have hereunto Set their hands and Seals this 3rd day of = September 1779.=A0 And in the fourth year of the Commonwealth. Thos. Napier=A0 {Seal}=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 John = Handcock {Seal} =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Henry Haislip =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Duncan Mcclochlin =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Robert Allen =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Richard Napier =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 William Barnett =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 James Cole =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Patk: Napier =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Thos. Linthicum =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Thos Appleberry =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 F. Rice Bennett =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 John=A0 = Williamson =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 At a court held for [county name removed] on Thursday the Seventh day of = October 1779. Thi Inquisition was this day returned by John Handcock, = the first Juror impannelld on the Inquest and by the Court ordered to be = Recorded. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = Teste John Cobbs CC =20 To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the = instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:12:18 -0600 From: nelhatch <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An explanation, please HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: = http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm When confronted by a difficult problem, you can solve it more easily by = reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger have handled = this?" - Unknown Janice has hit upon my original thoughts on the meaning of "including = his settlement" in this land grant. "The original material sounded to me as if the acreage included a parcel = of land already his by right of a decision, legal suit, legatee of a = will etc." And if this "settled land" did indeed refer to an inheritance, that = would have provided another avenue of research in the probate records = for me. I had done a full search of the LVA Northern Neck Grants and found loads = of grants for the members of the Zane family but with only a few = containing the "settlement" phrase. But while it now appears to have a different meaning, thanks to so many = of you, at the very least I now know the year each of them first settled = on their land. And as is often the case when presenting a question to this list, I = picked up even more info I'd never heard before - tomahawk claims being = one of them. Always an informative discussion from this list - many thanks to all who = joined in! Nel Hatcher To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html ------------------------------ End of VA-ROOTS Digest - 26 Jul 2010 to 27 Jul 2010 (#2010-103) *************************************************************** To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html