I would also try the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies. --- On Tue, 12/22/09, VA-ROOTS automatic digest system <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: VA-ROOTS automatic digest system <[log in to unmask]> Subject: VA-ROOTS Digest - 18 Dec 2009 to 21 Dec 2009 (#2009-119) To: [log in to unmask] Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 12:00 AM There are 4 messages totalling 206 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Confederate Court Martial Proceedings (3) 2. LVA Open Monday, 21 December To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:05:53 -0500 From: Westview <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Confederate Court Martial Proceedings Ted, I would try the National Archives http://www.archives.gov/ -- they have = some Confederate records. kathy To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:28:35 -0500 From: "Tarter, Brent (LVA)" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: LVA Open Monday, 21 December After being closed during the snow on Saturday, the Library of Virginia is open as usual on Monday, 21 December 2009. =20 Brent Tarter The Library of Virginia [log in to unmask] <blocked::mailto:[log in to unmask]>=20 =20 Please visit the Library of Virginia's Web site at http://www.lva.virginia.gov <blocked::http://www.lva.virginia.gov/>=20 To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:05:35 -0600 From: Elizabeth Shown Mills <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Confederate Court Martial Proceedings Kathy wrote: >I would try the National Archives http://www.archives.gov/ -- they have some Confederate records. Kathy's suggestion (research at the National Archives) is appropriate. However, this material is not at NARA's website. To find material like this at NARA, one has to have a game plan, which starts with using NARA's findings aids--most of which are not yet online. NARA holds the War Department Collection of Confederate Records in its Record Group 109. This is a collection of materials that the Union Army captured in the wake of Richmond's fall, plus other materials that the U.S. War Department gathered from elsewhere. Most record groups at NARA have a guide called a *Preliminary Inventory,* which detail the various series and collections within that record group--the original records, not microfilm (microfilm has a different set of guides). Some PIs are still in print at NARA and are free. (At the website, we can determine which ones are still available for order from NARA.) If they are not currently in print at NARA, they can usually be found at Heritage Books. Very, very few of the PIs themselves have been put online by NARA. For the War Department Collection of Confederate Records, an enhanced version of the the preliminary inventory was prepared by Craig Scott, CG (owner of Heritage Books and a military records expert), with an index and a cross-reference to the materials from this record group that had been microfilmed at the time Scott's revision was prepared. What you would seek is this: Elizabeth Bethel, _Preliminary Inventory of the War Department Collection of Confederate Records (Record Group 109),_ rev. ed., with Craig R. Scott (Athens, Ga.: Iberian publishing Co.), 1994. This volume informs us of several record collections that deal with Confederate court-martials, including this one: "RECORD OF COURTS-MARTIAL. 1861-65. 6 vols. (ch. I, vols. 194-199) and 4 index vols. 1 ft. "Shows date and number, name, rank, and organization of person tried, whether acquitted or found guilty, and sentences. Entries in volumes 194 and 188 are arranged alphabetically by initial letter of name of person tried and thereunder numerically; entries in the other volumes are arranged numerically. Some entries on [sic] volumes 197 and 198 also give the date the court was held, the date the sentence was approved, and the name of the general approving the sentence; and volume 199 contains some correspondence and endorsements. The dates of the entries in some of the volumes overlap, but the entries are not duplicated. There are separate name index volumes for all of the volumes except 194 and 197." Scott's version of Bethel's guide also indicates that these records were not filmed at the time his guide was prepared. A check of the NARA microfilm catalog online indicates that these records still aren't available on film. That means that either we will have to go to the National Archives to consult these records or else we will have to engage someone to make the search for us. In either case, knowing (from the PI) exactly what it is we'd be looking for and the organization of the records is a tremendous time saver. Incidentally, if those of us who live outside the Beltway were simply to go to NARA and explain our problem to a consultant, he would typically hand us a copy of the PI and ask us to search through it for what we need. That's when we kick ourselves for our lack of preparation, realizing that we're paying $150 or whatever a night for accommodations, in addition to the cost of the trip, when we could have read the PI at home and planned our work. (Alternately, hiring someone in DC to inquire of a consultant, who then hands them a PI to read, means we are paying someone a goodly rate to read what we could have done ourselves before hiring the help. And in that process of reading the PI ourselves, we would have learned of the existence of all sorts of other records we never knew about.) If we approach this problem online, a search of the NARA website would turn up principally two things: (1) an identification of the Bethel and Scott version of the PI; and (2) the RG 109 section of the general guide to the National Archives, which tells us this: "109.7.1 Records of the Adjutant and Inspector General's Department "Textual Records: Letters and telegrams sent, 1861-65. Letters received, 1861-65, with registers and index. Telegrams received and drafts of telegrams sent, 1861-65. Record of telegrams received, 1862-65. Account book relating to telegrams sent, 1862- 64. Inspection reports, 1863-65, with indexes, n.d. *****Records relating to courts-martial, 1861-65.***** General and special orders, 1861-65. Muster and pay rolls of Confederate military units, 1861-65 (510 ft.). Casualty lists, 1861-65. Records relating to appointments of military officers, 1861-65, with registers, rosters of officers, and lists of quartermasters. Records relating to army organization, n.d., with register. Records relating to conscription, exemption, and details, 1862-65. Register of slaves impressed, 1864-65. Miscellaneous records, 1861-76, including powers of attorney, 1861-65; records of boards of surveys, 1861-65; and Troops Tendered to the Confederate War Department, 1876. "Microfilm Publications: M410, M474, M627, M836, M935." As you can see, this only tells us that the records exist, but nothing more--except a notation that 5 sets of microfilm have been made from some of the widely varying materials described in this whole paragraph. If we use the online microfilm catalog to determine what those 5 sets of microfilm cover, we find that none of them treat the court-martial collections. Bottom line: We love the fact that NARA is putting some of its materials online. But for finding records at NARA, old-fashioned stuff like those preliminary inventories are still indispensable! Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG Track 4, Advanced Research Methodology & Evidence Analysis Samford University Institute of Genealogy & Historical Research To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:01:05 -0500 From: James Burnett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Confederate Court Martial Proceedings Ted Along these same lines I have had luck with the following wrt Courts Martials and punishment that happened during the war: I have cut and pasted the particular vol that held the execution I was looking for but there are numerous vols to this series. Jones Memorial may have them. Douglas Burnett Satellite Beach Fl via Madison Heights Virginia Source: Southern Historical Society Papers, Vol. IX January to December >> 1881 >> Richmond VA:Rev. J. William Jones, D. D. Secretary Southern Historical >> Society (Kraus Reprint Co. Millwood, New York) 1977. Reprinted with the >> permission of the Virginia Historical Society. >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Elizabeth Shown Mills <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Kathy wrote: > >I would try the National Archives http://www.archives.gov/ -- they have > some Confederate records. > > > > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html ------------------------------ End of VA-ROOTS Digest - 18 Dec 2009 to 21 Dec 2009 (#2009-119) *************************************************************** To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html