First, thanks to Erin , anyone whose user name is "Rubberdukies" must be avery happy person. You gave me a smile. I have been lurking for many weeks on this mail list hoping someone will query James King who was probably born in Virginia sometime between 1770 and 1793 as his wife, Elizbeth Clemen(t)s was born in the latter year in Virginia. Her father was Gershom Clemen(t)s. James and Elizabeth were married in Livingston Co. Ky in 1811. James King died in Pope Co., Illinois in 1839. My dna results have pointed to two people who were both Virginians. A tri-racial gentleman who matched my King line 23/25 and whose family is from Surry Virginia, and whose family continues to own land there to this day....and a very young King/caucasian male from N. Carolina who matched our dna 37/37 markers and is descended from a Henry King of Virginia who migrated to N.C. in the late 1700's. This young man's tests were paid for by another gentleman who thought they were descended from the same line...they were not and you know the rest of the story. Does anyone research a colonial King family who lived near Surry? James King had children who married Armstrong, Finney, Sutherland. His daughters had the middle names of Myrick, Young and Williams.. He had three sons , Jeremiah and Joseph who died young and my ggg-grandfather James Clemen(t)s King b. 1827 in Illinois married Lucinda White 1857. I see many of these surnames in family profiles of Surry area and can't help but wonder if they are related to my elusive James King.