STATES RIGHTS have to be reinstated. This usupation of our ancestors hard fought Constitution is not to be decimated by activist judges and imbevelant citizenry. It is almost 9-11 and we must remember all of our fallen warriors who have died to protect the Constitution from all of our enemies, domestic and foreign. JP Adams Texas -----Original Message----- From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:59 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: STATE'S RIGHTS ON THE COMEBACK The Rights of the States was clearly enumerated by the 10Th Amendment; all powers not enumerated in the Constitution are reserved to the People and States. The Federal government has usurped the rights of the people and states more times than we can count since the end of the Civil War. The states need to reassert "THEIR" rights. My dogeared copy of the Constitution seems quite clear on the rights of states; maybe not the right of session (which I would not want to see) but the right to govern the people at the local level. Let the Federal government DO what the Constitution promulgated and leave the everything else to the people and states. The Federal Government can not even protect our economy, ideology or borders, their primary enumerated function. Carl M. Dozier, LTC, AUS, Ret GOLD STAR FATHER Proud father of SSG Jonathan Kilian Dozier KIA Sinsil, Iraq 01-09-08... Hammer Company (Scouts) 3rd Squadron/2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment "SCOUTS OUT!" 816 Weatherby Court Chesapeake, Virginia 23322-3481 "Illegitimus non Carborundum" "Life is tough...it's tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne ---------- Original Message ---------- Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from mx06.dca.untd.com (mx06.dca.untd.com [10.171.44.36]) by maildeliver07.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABFCLLQUA6FEB7A for <[log in to unmask]> (sender <[log in to unmask]>); Tue, 2 Jun 2009 06:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: None Received: from listlva.virginia.gov (listlva.lib.va.us [192.131.239.33]) by mx06.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABFCLLQUAQSSRC2 (sender <[log in to unmask]>); Tue, 2 Jun 2009 06:32:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from list ([127.0.0.1]) by listlva.virginia.gov with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:41:57 -0400 Received: by LISTLVA.LIB.VA.US (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 173484 for [log in to unmask]; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:41:57 -0400 Approved-By: [log in to unmask] Received: from [205.188.157.39] by LISTLVA.LIB.VA.US (SMTPL release 1.0w) with TCP; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 08:38:59 -0400 Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-d01.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-44a251acf153; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:28:00 -0400 Received: from [log in to unmask] by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id o.d00.56dd2835 (37059) for <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 08:27:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.150]) by cia-db04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB045-5c784a251ac5183; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:27:51 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MA14 (webmail-ma14.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.78]) by smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMB037-5c784a251ac5183; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:27:49 -0400 References: <[log in to unmask]> <00b701c9e31e$955b6a50$c0123ef0$@net> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.136 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42952-STANDARD Received: from 97.104.216.159 by WEBMAIL-MA14.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.78) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:27:49 -0400 X-Spam-Flag:NO Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 08:27:49 -0400 Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history <[log in to unmask]> From: JEFFREY D SOUTHMAYD <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: STATE'S RIGHTS ON THE COMEBACK To: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: <00b701c9e31e$955b6a50$c0123ef0$@net> Precedence: list List-Help: <http://listlva.lib.va.us/cgi-bin/wa.exe?LIST=VA-HIST>, <mailto:[log in to unmask]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[log in to unmask]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[log in to unmask]> List-Owner: <mailto:[log in to unmask]> List-Archive: <http://listlva.lib.va.us/cgi-bin/wa.exe?LIST=VA-HIST> Return-Path: [log in to unmask] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2009 13:41:57.0865 (UTC) FILETIME=[E62E3D90:01C9E387] X-UNTD-SPF: None X-ContentStamp: 19:9:1263929654 X-MAIL-INFO:58a585e1a53999813985cd7c5831759cfce52d01080ce99d2165fcadf97da8e1 2c186d39011d3c351dcd48b91dc8b8997cbc593dad0505dc006599d8351c11addc986518a948 88dcc15c78619818fc89d87915e8 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: [log in to unmask] LIB.VA.US X-UNTD-UBE:-1 The Constitution is as the Supremes interpret it.? You seem to think it is a "black and white" creation.? It is not.? In fact, the Founding Fathers did a really poor job, in my opinion, making it clear what they intended within the four corners of that document, as continuing legal precedent clearly evidences.? Thus, these Harvard and Yale educated lawyers have a free rein to read what they want into the document, including the "emanations from a penumbra" style interpretations by judicial activists that legalized infanticide. States rights may indeed make a Constitutional comeback. J South -----Original Message----- From: John Philip Adams <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 9:07 pm Subject: Re: STATE'S RIGHTS ON THE COMEBACK I am confused. I thought we were operating under the Constitution of the United States of America, not the articles of confederation, the UN charter, the constitution of France or Germany or Lord forbid the wahtever Scotland is operating from at this time.. What is so hard to understand. We are operating under the CONSTITUTION of the USA. Are there so many uneducated attorneys and judges who do not know the differnce or did they go to a different law school than most of those not graced with attending Yale or Harvard? John Philip Adams TEXAS -----Original Message----- From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kevin Gutzman Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 4:08 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: STATE'S RIGHTS ON THE COMEBACK In response to Kevin Hardwick's post on federalism, which echoes Hamiltonian propaganda of the 1790s and John Marshall's/Joseph Story's Supreme Court opinions of the first quarter of the 19th century in falsely associating the compact theory of federation with the Articles of Confederation, I recommend chapter 3 of my 2007 book, _Virginia's American Revolution..._. There, I demonstrate that the compact theory was very clearly elaborated by Virginia Federalists -- not anti-Federalists -- in the Richmond Ratification Convention of 1788. Kevin Gutzman I doubt very much that the current court will revive the compact theory of Federation--that is, the federalism of the Articles of Confederation. The court still finds the Federalist Papers authoritative. Consult Federalist numbers Seven, Eight, and Nine to see why the alleged right of a state to secede from the Federal Union violates the fundamental purpose of the Federal Constitution. You may also find it useful to read David Hendrickson, PEACE PACT: THE LOST WORLD OF THE AMERICAN FOUNDING. All best, Kevin Kevin R. 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