Craig, Abigail Adams was aghast at the irresponsibility when the two girls landed in England. (HERB COMMENT): Is she to be considered to be sexually noticed by TJ if Abigail's and the ship Captain assessment is correct.......I think not. And especially in a Paris setting with all the beautiful women at hand. Sally became a servant in Jefferson's household in France and was paid a wage under French laws. Jefferson was required by French law to register any slaves he brought with him. He registered neither James nor his sister Sally. Sally had the right to petition the court for her freedom (which would have made public the embarassment of Jefferson's failure to follow French law). James, who had been highly trained in French cooking, agreed to go back on the condition that he would be freed as soon as he trained a replacement. Madison said that Sally agreed to go back on condition that her children would be freed. (HERB COMMENT): We don't believe Madison's claim in the defective Pike Co. newspaper do we? Remember their MISINFORMATION there on his claims as being named by Dolley. How can we believe anything there? If there "was" such an agreement why would TJ go back on it and NOT legally free Beverly at 21 instead of letting him "run away" at age 24. Was he not a man to honor agreements? Why not, per perceived agreement, did he not legally free Harriet II as she became 21, instead of allowing her to "run away?" Runaways, as we know, could be brought back if found, so why take this embarrassing chance....just follow the "imagined but unproven agreement" formed in Paris?? Sally was, when they left France, pregnant at age 16. Jefferson never recorded the outcome of that prenancy in his farm book. (HERB COMMENT): Again, this was a Madison claim only.....NO other records to this effect. "IF" it happened the child must be that of someone around the teacher's residence of Sally away from TJ's location, in April 1789 (exactly nine months before arriving at Monticello) when for 5 weeks she was away being taught social graces for supporting TJ's daughters in society. So,l what else would you like to know, Craig, and why are you being so disrespectful towards the mother of Jefferson's only surviving sons? (HERB COMMENT): Are you like Annette Gordon-Reed or Fawn Brodie (dreamed she was married to TJ), in falsely claiming that Jefferson's "ONLY SONS"........what proof of any sons.....only TJ recorded son was Peterfield Jefferson, who died very early and the ONLY son born to him. Where is your PROOF to claim this.....do you, AGR and Monticello have secret papers but do not divulge them to the public......I think not, so please, I ask those supporting these false claims refrain from such misinformation until you can resurrect it under some rock? Herb Barger ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html