J. South, There is strong evidence that one of the Vice Presidential candidates is/was involved in a secessionist movement. Anne Anne Pemberton [log in to unmask] http://www.erols.com/apembert http://www.educationalsynthesis.org ----- Original Message ----- From: <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 3:24 PM Subject: Re: REL > In fact, from 1825-1840 the cadets at West Point learned government from > the text of William Rawle's book, A View of the Constitution of the United > States of America.? The book taught the prevailing view that secession was > an absolute right of each state, which could decide at any time whether it > wanted to continue as a member of the Union. > > Lincoln never gave the US courts the opportunity to render an opinion on > the Constitutionality of secession.? He just summarily called for the > raising of an army to invade the initially seceding states, and thereby > drove states that had not yet seceded, like Virginia, out of the Union; > and drove REL into the service of Virginia rather than the Federal > government. > > I suspect we have not heard the last of secession in the US. > > J South > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Brothers <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 9:36 am > Subject: Re: REL > > > > > > > > > > At the time there was considerable debate as to the legality of secession. > It was resolved, rather messily by the war. But constitutionally, it is my > understanding, that the right of secession is still debatable. So it was > not "illegal". And for the record before Anne jumps all over me, as far as > I know all of my relatives, including the Lees, were Yankees.? > ? > > On Oct 12, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Anne Pemberton wrote:? > ? > >> J. South,? > >>? > >> Actually, the president only acted AFTER the south illegally > seceded, >> and then attacked the federal garrison at Fort Sumpter. > Even had the >> secession been legal, which it wasn't, taking over the > Fort at Sumpter >> was not at all legal.? > >>? > >> So don't blame the man who happened to be siting in the White House > >> when the south lost its marbles.? > >>? > >> Anne? > >>? > >> Anne Pemberton? > >> [log in to unmask] > >> http://www.erols.com/apembert? > >> http://www.educationalsynthesis.org? > >> ______________________________________? > >> To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the > >> instructions at? > >> http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html? > ? > > ______________________________________? > > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions > at? > > http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html? > > > > > > > ______________________________________ > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions > at > http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html