Herbert, To be honest, you have not added a single grain of anything to the discussion other than registering your dismay that you are not afforded the voice of others, including Annette Gordon-Reed. Perhaps the reason your "words" were not included in the tv shows is because you were too strident in making your point, as you tend to be on this forum. Your actual point is that we don't know for sure if the father of the children was Thomas Jefferson, or not. That does not mean that he was NOT the father, it just means that the evidence is not absolute. If people choose to accept the available evidence as conclusive that TJ did the deed, that is their choice. No amount of your ranting and raving is going to change the minds of those who believe that slavery was so immoral that the likelihood of another immoral act is going to be more true than not. Anne Anne Pemberton [log in to unmask] http://www.erols.com/apembert http://www.educationalsynthesis.org ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html