Actually a phone book is more useful as it can, like a tax list, help document the presence of an individual during a given time at a specific place. Barbara Vines Little, CG Dominion Research Services PO Box 1273 Orange, VA 22960 540-832-3473 [log in to unmask] CG, Certified Genealogist, is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certified genealogists after periodic evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office. Tom Gilmore wrote: > If we are going to get into genealogy, fine, but please, let's not > mistake a list of names and dates for genealogy. Knowledgeable > genealogists, like other trained researchers, know that It is their > responsibility to conduct suitable studies and* report them in sufficient > detail to permit evaluation and confirmation by others. * Paul Drake wrote > something like this: Genealogy without evidence is worthless." . May I add, > that a list of names and dates without citations is about as useful to a > genealogist as the telephone book. > > --Tom Gilmore > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:39 PM, John Philip Adams <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > > >> Nicholas Martiou's wife is Jane Berkeley is the daughter of Henry Berkeley, >> 12Th Baron Berkeley. >> So let's try this again. Washington is descendant of the Berkeley's of >> England. Maybe Ms. Pemberton should take a genealogy course before >> espousing >> the plebian qualities of George Washington. >> Let's do some research before we believe 'a book' regarding the FOUNDING >> FATHER OF OUR COUNTRY. >> John Philip Adams >> Texas >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anne Pemberton >> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:58 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Washington's Earliest Ancestor >> >> Connie, >> >> Could you flesh out that descendency from Martiou to George Washington? >> >> My understanding is that John Washington married the daughter of Nathanial >> Pope, Ann, if I remember correctly. Is the connection from Martiou to Ann >> Pope? >> >> Anne >> >> Anne Pemberton >> [log in to unmask] >> http://www.erols.com/apembert >> http://www.educationalsynthesis.org >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Connie Lapallo" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:10 PM >> Subject: Re: Washington's Earliest Ancestor >> >> >> Anne wrote: "I hate to burst your bubble but...George Washington's earliest >> ancestor was John Washington who came to Northern Neck as a ship's mate, >> and married well...." >> >> >> Actually, no. >> >> John Washington was only George's earliest ancestor named Washington--not >> his earliest American ancestor. That was Captain Nicholas Martiau (spelled >> various ways, including "Marten") Martiau was a French Huguenot who arrived >> in 1620 on the Francis Bonaventure. He was a French military engineer, a >> Justice of the Court of York, a member of the House of Burgesses, and a >> signer of the rebuttal concerning living conditions in the colony from 1607 >> to >> 1619. In 1640, he was granted 1,300 acres (a fairly large tract in those >> days). >> He called his home "York," which is part of today's Yorktown. >> >> Martiau also built a fort, called "Martiau's fort," the subject of a 1989 >> dig. In >> its report, the APVA states, "The fort was likely constructed c. 1630 by >> Nicolas Martiau, a trained French military engineer and owner of the land >> were >> the fort was situated." >> >> In 1635, Martiau was a leader in the uprising against Royal Governor John >> Harvey, an important event in Virginia's early history. The meeting which >> eventually led to Harvey's ousting took place, ironically, near Martiau's >> house >> and likely just a few hundred yards from the site of the later surrender of >> Cornwallis to General George Washington, Martiau's great-great-great >> grandson at Yorktown. >> >> A stone marker, dedicated in 1631 by Gen. Pershing, reads: >> >> SITE OF THE HOME OF >> >> NICOLAS MARTIAU >> >> THE ADVENTUROUS HUGUENOT >> >> HE WAS BORN IN FRANCE 1591 >> >> CAME TO VIRGINIA 1620 >> >> AND DIED IN YORKTOWN 1657 >> >> HE WAS A CAPTAIN IN THE INDIAN UPRISING >> >> A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OF BURGESSES >> >> JUSTICE OF THE COURT OF YORK >> >> IN 1635 A LEADER >> >> IN THE THRUSTING OUT OF GOVERNOR HARVEY >> >> WHICH WAS THE FIRST OPPOSITION >> >> IN THE BRITISH COLONIAL POLICY. >> >> THE ORIGINAL PATENTEE FOR YORKTOWN >> >> AND THROUGH THE MARRIAGE >> >> OF HIS DAUGHTER ELIZABETH >> >> TO COL. GEORGE READ HE BECAME >> >> THE EARLIEST AMERICAN ANCESTOR OF BOTH >> >> GEN. GEORGE WASHINGTON >> >> AND GOVERNOR THOMAS NELSON >> >> >> Like his grandson, Martiau was a leader of his time. >> >> >> Connie Lapallo >> Author of >> DARK ENOUGH TO SEE THE STARS IN A JAMESTOWN SKY >> And its upcoming sequel >> THE SUN IS BUT A MORNING STAR IN A JAMESTOWN SKY >> www.ConnieLapallo.com >> >> ______________________________________ >> To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at >> http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html >> >> ______________________________________ >> To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at >> http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html >> >> ______________________________________ >> To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at >> http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html >> >> > > ______________________________________ > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at > http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > > > ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html