----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Pemberton" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: Re: 06262124Z08 Secession You asked: "And, I really don't know how the south expected......" I can't answer that except to give you reference to the Paul Seabury and Angelo Codevilla book, "War: Ends & Means", ISBN 0-465-09067-2, 1989, Basic Books. These two, one from UC at Berkeley and the other from Stanford (hardly bastions of conservative thought), present a insightful view into what drives us to "fight to the death" over issues, real and ideological. Any one who wants to look beyond their own convictions and weigh them against a reasoned and dispassionate study of the motives that drive us to desperation and self-destruction and maybe even mutual destruction won't be dissatisfied. These two know what they're talking about. And their analysis is on point to both past and current events. Regards, Ray Walter, I like your thoughts on secession. It will be interesting to see what comes of, I think it is New Hampshire's threat to secede. Depending on how the election goes and when the war in Iraq is ended, they may not want to secede after all. As you suggest, the sabre-rattling and offensive actions were taken by the south, not by the USA. And, I really don't know how the south expected to support itself as an independent nation considering its indebtedness to England which was the basis of their objecting to the tariffs that promoted manufacturing in the north. It's like selling on e-bay and spending more there than you are earning. Anne Anne Pemberton [log in to unmask] http://www.erols.com/apembert http://www.educationalsynthesis.org ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1521 - Release Date: 6/26/2008 11:20 AM ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html