Nope, they are subject to the same rules. I assumed that form something you said, you were a Hemings. If not then we may not be related. Thanks for your commentary. The DNA test for family associations is such a wonder, I am shocked more families don't do this, if for no other reason than to extend their histories back to their countries and districts of origin. Another day another dollar. Adieu. JPA TEXAS -----Original Message----- From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anne Pemberton Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:18 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: DNA TEST and genealogy John, I'm sure it would be great if you and I were relatives. I don't know what I said that gave you a clue I am in the Hemings family. I am not. My family is also, according to oral tradition, multi-racial, but some in the family say that since it cannot be "proved", it isn't so. Yet, to look at the faces of my sisters and I, is to know there was a Native American in the woodpile! <grin> Actually, the Native American in the family was on my grandmother's side, and the family record stops with a first name to the wife, who would have been the Native American, and nothing further can be found without her maiden name. So, I have some understanding of what the Hemings family has been through. My mother did not tell us of the Native American heritage until we moved away from PA. Then it could come out of the woodwork. Had it been known, there may have been some fuss even tho, with my father being blonde, three of us are blondes, which does not lead to a supposition of another race mixed in. The information I shared on the Hemings experiences with the Jefferson descendents came from my reading of the book, "Jefferson's Children" by Shannon Lanier, a descendent of Madison Hemings. And, yes it was shabby - an elderly white lady refused to shake a proferred hand and said it was "nasty". I'm sure those Hemings who live in northern states and it was their first visit to Virginia, wondered where the term "Southern hospitality" came from, since it was not extended to them by all there. But, to their credit, there were members of the most current generation of Jefferson descendents who were most accepting and friendly. Lanier's book details the life of Jefferson and Sally with details that make a reader, even one who knows already of the controversy, likely to continue in the belief that the oral histories are true. The book says that Madison Hemings was a very well respected businessman in Chillicothe, and it was said that "his word was his bond". With such honesty acknowledged by neighbors who knew him and did business with him, it seems unlikely that he was spreading a tall tale when he told who his father was. I would like to see the tests done, but truly understand the reluctance of the Madison Hemings family to allow one of his sons to be exhumed. It is, in a way, similar to those women who tell their obstetricians that they don't want to know in advance if they will have a boy or girl. Sometime people just do not have a need to know. So I really think it is up to those who are the most curious to put up the funds for the testing. And, I will make one parting remark before I close down for the night. How come none of the Jefferson descendents have been asked to prove their descendency via DNA tests? According to Lanier, there are a number of people who say they are descendents, but there are no official documents to say so. Is there a double standard involved here? Anne Anne Pemberton [log in to unmask] http://www.erols.com/apembert http://www.educationalsynthesis.org ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html