Stephen, Not sure if your reply was to me, or another poster. I really do not think that having fathered children by a slave woman makes Jefferson a "villian", but it does tend to tarnish a probably mistaken view that without these men, democracy could not have happened. I wonder if you realize that the whole rest of the country was in on this expedition, not just Virginia. Before moving to Virginia, I didn't know so many people believed Virginia to be the only colony! Anne Anne Pemberton [log in to unmask] http://www.erols.com/apembert http://www.educationalsynthesis.org ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html