Henry, I don't think that the fact that someone "despised" someone, or "loved" someone is necessarily correlary to whether or not the speak the truth, I am inclined to think that the journalist had more evidence then than we do now. Since you are where the documents are, perhaps you could explain the illustration of a census listing Madison Hemings on which the person who wrote the list also wrote by Madison Hemings' name that he was the son of Thomas Jefferson.. The census was done in Chillicothe, Ohio in 1870. Was this written because of oral history, or was there some sort of verification that took place? Anne Anne Pemberton [log in to unmask] http://www.erols.com/apembert http://www.educationalsynthesis.org ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html