Henry, Yes, Mr. Browning, as Mr. Wiencek says, please carefully read the Monticello Report and while there check out the Getting Word Board Members, Dianne Swann-Wright, Chairperson of the Monticello Study Group coordinated with this board on slavery history matters as well and see if you detect any bias in such statements that not just one but possibly ALL children were TJs. There is no meat or backing for this outrageous statement...only ONE was tested. See if you can find the Minority Report in the original Monticello Report as approved by Dr. Dan Jordan. No, you can't, it was HIDDEN from you and the public and "swept under the carpet" until I was sent a copy by an anonymous person (still don't know who), and I was angered (as all Americans should be) and reported this act to Mr. Brenton Halsey, then Chairman of the Thomas Jefferson Memorial Foundation. Yes, they were STILL "Memorial" at that time. Dan Jordan then apologized to Dr. Ken Wallenborn and posted it on his web page. Ken "spilled the beans" on this biased and one sided in-house study. He and two other senior Monticello Guides were so angered that they would rather resign than tell guests something that was not correct. This is the same Dr. Dan Jordan that Jon Kukla, Henry Wiencek, Alan Pell Crawford, Peter Onuf, Jan Lewis, Joseph Ellis and other younger historians are familiar with. Also Mr. Browning, while there look for the Scholars Commission Report (13 prominent and full senior scholars, men women and blacks), can't find it on the Monticello web page........click on the Thomas Jefferson Heritage Society page (www.tjheritage.org) and www.angelfire.com/va/TJTruth and link to Scholars Commission Report. In 565 pages they found troubles with the Monticello Report and found NO PROOF that TJ fathered any Hemings child. As Mr. Wiencek says, it is Herb's view. Not quiet ALL Herb's view, please read everything on these web pages. There have been NO personal attacks upon Dr. Jordan at all. Everything I have written here is based upon fact, personal letters from Dr. Jordan, Past Chairpersons of TJF and many e-mails to and from Dr. Foster. I am questioning his responsibilities as Monticello President to do all in his power to present ALL facts. Not to even suggest that Dan has not been a great "fundraiser" as the Past Chairman informed me, BUT why does he cling to an old biased and outdated study as explained by Dr. Wallenborn. Why does he refuse to conduct another joint research group to study this important controversy......his foundation may own TJ's home but TJ and his great legacy belong to us ALL. I call upon those named above and those not named to call upon Dr. Jordan because we owe Dan a lot as Mr. Wiencek says, to "get off center" and have another study. As "keeper of the Jefferson flame" does he not owe society this much? Herb Barger Jefferson Family Historian Lyle Browning asks for a succinct summary of this Hemings question. You could look at the Monticello report on their website, which is very clearly presented, and then look at Herb's website for another view. Jon Kukla said what I have been thinking of saying but haven't gotten around to -- the personal attacks on Dan Jordan of Monticello are way, way out of line. He is a superb scholar, committed to a full and frank discussion of the Jeffersonian legacy. He presided over the creation of the magnificent International Center for Jefferson Studies, where scores of scholars come from around the world to study, discuss, and advance Jefferson studies in an open and impartial atmosphere. We owe Dan a lot. Henry Wiencek Charlottesville ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html