This Yojsouth "person" obviously enjoys baiting others who subscribe. Do not give him the power to make a difference on the list. Just ignore/delete and proceed. -Melinda -- Melinda C. P. Skinner Richmond, VA -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Ronald Seagrave <[log in to unmask]> > Its sad 'Yojsouth' -- A.K.A. ??? has caused a injury serious to this list. > > He's gone beyond the limits of professional conduct and should be removed > from this list. He should be identified, as should all members of this list, > in fact no alias should ever be allowed posting. He should loss all > professional privileges to all library service. In my opinion, his conduct > is now no better than that of a robber. He's actively limiting our > collective exchange of information. > > Ronald Seagrave > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray, Tom (LVA)" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:44 AM > Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Yojsouth > > > I respect my colleague's decision not to censor the postings to the list > even though I disagree in this case. As many of my other colleagues know > only too well - no one at the Library believes in free speech more than > I. > > In my opinion the postings by "J South" are a form of bullying. No one > else on the list has ever denigrated individuals based solely on sex or > race. And for what purpose? I was under the impression that such > personal attacks would not be tolerated on the list. Even though the > attacks are not directed at list members they are directed at > significant historical individuals, primarily women. I find this > offensive in the extreme. > > I was also under the impression that list members were expected to use > their real names. It has been my experience that bullies such as "J > South" lose some of their venom when forced into the public. "J South" > is not only a bully he is a coward. > > I will unsubscribe to the list as soon as Brent posts this message. I > have been a member for many years because I consider it a professional > obligation to offer assistance to Library patrons in any format > available. I have most often done that off-line as some of you know. It > is not my obligation to be subjected to crude, insulting behavior as > exhibited by "J South." It has gone too far. > > Current list members are welcome to contact me for assistance with > research involving Va. newspapers, with bibliographical questions, or > for collection assistance. > > Sincerely, > > Tom H. Ray > Collections Management Coordinator > The Library of Virginia > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tarter, Brent (LVA) > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:43 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Yojsouth > > Yojsouth's message earlier today about Thomas Jefferson and Sally > Hemings has brought me several private requests and demands that he be > expelled from the list. > > Va-Hist has always operated with as much anarchy as possible. The > sponsors at the Library of Virginia have believed that the best remedy > for improper speech is more speech. We have encouraged a civil dialog, > that being the best way for intelligent discussion to proceed. > > It is not a violation of any unstated Va-Hist rule that your know what > you're writing about (John Smith did not marry Pocahontas; Sally Hemings > could not legally have married anybody). > > Or that you can't believe that "an educated, cultured" white widower > might have had a sex life. > > Or that you be free of prejudices (Sally Hemings, an enslaved African > American woman, has not been shown to be "skanky," which the dictionary > defines as repugnantly filthy or squalid or of low or sleazy character, > although perhaps yojsouth believes that is the default condition for > women of one-fourth or more African descent). > > Or even that you not gratuitously publish an assertion as if it were a > known fact (nobody here as asserted that Sally Heming could not keep > track of the fathers of her children, although perhaps yojsouth believes > that is a common condition for women of one-fourth or more African > descent). > > We cannot require that people hide their defects if they insist on > parading them. > > Please do not let these comments unnecessarily goad us into equally bad > or worse behavior. > > I, for one, do not propose to respond to yojsouth (who does regularly > violate a Va-Hist rule that we used to state from time to time that all > postings be signed with the author's real name), and I hope that other > people will not, either. > > You don't have to read him. I, who am the list moderator, do. > > Brent Tarter > The Library of Virginia > [log in to unmask] > > Visit the Library of Virginia's Web site at http://www.lva.virginia.gov > > ______________________________________ > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions > at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > > ______________________________________ > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at > http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > > ______________________________________ > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at > http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html