With regard to the comments below, present controversies may indeed be germane to the ongoing historical discussions on this and similar lists, particularly if part of the controversy involves differing interpretations of the past. Or, as another poster points out, aspects of the historical landscape. In these cases, bringing our historical knowledge (and not just our individual opinions) to bear on the topic can be helpful and instructive. But this should not cover all cases. That a particular institution has been around a long time does not mean that everything that goes on there is relevant to a historical discussion. All places have a history, after all, however long or short. The W&M Cross controversy certainly involved many aspects to which historical knowledge could contribute. The same cannot be said about this latest episode. There is simply nothing I or anyone on this list can contribute other than our political views on the matter. And that, in my unhumble opinion, should not be the point of VA-Hist. Bland Whitley LVA "This List is not a blog, as you say, however, it does seem to me that certain aspects of current events do pertain to Virginia history and therefore qualify for inclusion and submission to this List; i.e., the ongoing controversy at the College of William & Mary (an historical institution) regarding the removal of an historical artifact (the cross from the chapel) and, now, a sex show being presented, again, at the college under the guise of art. That is cultural history in the making, in my humble opinion." ______________________________________ To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html