On Jul 1, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Anne Pemberton wrote: > Lyle, > > I just checked google for a couple of sites. You can interpret them > as you will: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Turner > > http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/natturner/ > > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part3/3p1518.html > > http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USASturner.htm > > http://www.melanet.com/nat/nat.html > > http://www.historybuff.com/library/refslave.html The "story" of Nat Turner is well known and does not differ substantially among any of the URL's you list. > > This is from the first entries in Google. I overlooked none of > them. It would seem that "mass murder" is in the eyes of the > beholders. To put down this "insurrection", hundred of blacks were > tortured and killed. So, who were the "mass murderers"? Another fine example of relativism. Nat Turner was an exemplar of how not to achieve a goal. His actions were exactly what the establishment feared most and which would naturally enough play into anyone's fears. The reaction was almost primal. The result was that innocent people were killed, laws were passed that were ever more draconian in response and the cause of freedom for black people was set back even farther. What an amazingly good definition of futility. Turner's intellectual contribution to history was his belief that white people were to be killed as a means of starting an insurrection. No real plan, just a sort of generalized instruction to slaughter. That is no comparison worth mentioning as compared with that of GW & TJ. Thanks for proving my point. Lyle > > Anne > > > > > Anne Pemberton > [log in to unmask] > http://www.erols.com/apembert > http://www.educationalsynthesis.org