Lyle, I do think the number ARE significant. Based on my personal experience, the number of black who are racists are minimal, and the number of whites who are still, even in the 21st century, racists is rather much larger. Your experience, I will certainly agree, may vary from mine. It's like temperature - it's all in the degrees! Anne Anne Pemberton [log in to unmask] http://www.erols.com/apembert http://www.educationalsynthesis.org