Juneteenth has been discussed at length in the forum, and as recently as last Monday. I don' t know of any reason a factual comment on a subject that has been discussed in the past in this forum would be considered a "a transparent attempt to wind up various folks on the list." Or, are you suggesting that a factual comment that doesn't conform to the current politically correct perspective on historic events is not welcome among this distinguished group of historians since it would be considered "a transparent attempt to wind up various folks on the list"? Surely, I hope not. J South ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.