I notice that you did not deny it (ummm). Anita >From: Clara Callahan <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history > <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Cherokee Election March 3rd Q&A >Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 12:51:50 -0800 > >That's a mighty sweeping statement you're making, and heresay unless you've >got something to back it up. > >Anita Wills <[log in to unmask]> wrote: My understanding also, is that >the Cherokee receive funding from the US >Government for other tribes. I am told that the other tribes see little of >that money, in other words it is mismanaged by the Cherokee. There is >little >oversite by our government, and there should be. The tribes are suffering >from grinding poverty at the hands of those who are exploiting their >finances (imho). We should be writing letters of complaint to our >representatives. > >Anita > > > >From: Sunshine49 > >Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history > > > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: Cherokee Election March 3rd Q&A > >Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:33:42 -0500 > > > >I agree, and while I can be aware of the suspicion that the vote was > >evidently driven by an agenda and those who were pushing it [and those >who > >bothered to get out and vote], it does seem a sad day for the Tribe as a > >whole, they will all be tarred by this, including many who no doubt had >no > >racial agenda. They just had better things to do on a nice spring > >Saturday. > > > >Nancy > > > >------- > >I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. > > > >--Daniel Boone > > > > > > > >On Mar 4, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Anita Wills wrote: > > > >>You can continue to say that, but the backlash is going to be on the > >>Cherokee. They were one of the Five Civilized Tribes, those who wanted >to > >>emulate the white man. In the end the white man treated them just like > >>the rest of the Tribes (the ones they sold out), and sent them on, The > >>Trail of Tears. The Cherokee are the first to talk about the US > >>Government not honoring Treaties, and then you do the same thing. You >can > >>keep pointing that finger at the government, but your own leaders are > >>gloating and bragging (on the news), that this is democracy at work. > >>What is good for the goose is good for the gander. > >> > >>Anita > >> > >> > >>>From: Coats Family History > >>>Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history > >>> > >>>To: [log in to unmask] > >>>Subject: Re: Cherokee Election March 3rd Q&A > >>>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 08:14:14 -0800 > >>> > >>>Once again this is a Cherokee by Blood issue....Cherokee democracy at > >>>work... > >>> > >>>The Freedment didn't sign the 1866 treaty and the US forced the > >>>Cherokees to enter into that treaty... > >>> > >>>Once again not the Cherokee Nation's fault, the Dawes choose to record > >>>the information the way they did... > >>> > >>>I have no family stories of slaves among my Cherokee ancestors...so I > >>>admit no knowledge of slaves and their owners.... > >>> > >>>Charlotte > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>On 3/4/07, [log in to unmask] wrote: > >>>>There is a United Cherokee Tribe of Virginia that celebrates their > >>>>ancestry > >>>>in the state. They were mostly located in the mountains in the SW part > >>>>of > >>>>the state. > >>>> > >>>>The Cherokees were slaveowners and while they banned the ownership of > >>>>Indian > >>>>slaves in the early 18th century as a tribal matter, they collected >and > >>>> kept > >>>>Black slaves up until 1866 when that ended via treaty with the US. > >>>>See, > >>>>Theda Perdue, Slavery and the Evolution of Cherokee Society. The > >>>>Cherokee were > >>>>notoriously cruel slave owners and developed great skill in tracking > >>>>down > >>>>runaway slaves for white owners; however some had a habit of killing > >>>>the Black > >>>>slaves once they found them and so the Cherokee fell out of favor as > >>>>slave > >>>>catchers. Seems like this dislike for their Black brothers goes a > >>>>ways back. > >>>>76% is a pretty telling indication of how the tribal members still > >>>>feel. > >>>> > > >************************************** >AOL now offers > >>>>free > >>>>email to everyone. 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