My point was that both struggled with very difficult problems of internal dissent and both reacted in fundamentally the same way, given the lack of legal tools and institutions to deal with it. However, I think your selling Jefferson Davis's popularity short. There is a substantial statue here in Richmond on a street known as Monument Avenue (perhaps you've seen it?), a major north-south highway named after him, and numerous museums and historic sites across the United States that honor him, and I'm sure that's not the half of it. Gregg Kimball -----Original Message----- From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Basil Forest Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:52 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Long memories I don't see any giant marble monuments in the nation's capital to Jeff Davis, nor do I see him popularly held to be one of America's greatest leaders. I personally rank Lincoln's performance right up there with Hiram Grant, Cal Coolidge, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html