It's happened again.-They are coming in though (MY) southern border. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Finkelman <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Long memories > Invading PA was not terrorism; there was terrorism in Maryland (John > Merryman blowing up bridges etc) and in Missouri and there wre many > war crimes (like Fort Pillow), but the invading armies were were not > terrorists; traitors yes, but not terrorists > > Paul Finkelman > President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law > and Public Policy > Albany Law School > 80 New Scotland Avenue > Albany, New York 12208-3494 > > 518-445-3386 > [log in to unmask] > >>> [log in to unmask] 02/14/07 6:11 PM >>> > Nancy, > > Sorry to disturb your sensibilities, but I do think that terrorists is a > > good description of what the southern soldiers were doing. I'm thinking > of > such things as the invasion of southern Pennsylvania, the torture and > mutilation of bodies of Union soldiers, especially black Union soldiers, > and > other attrocities that were committed by those who refused to accept the > > constitutional rule of the majority in this nation. > > Just as, I would not take the word only of the settlers at Jamestown for > the > truth of the way of life of Native Americans, I do not take only the > word of > southerners for what happened in the uncivil war. There was no "Northern > > Aggression", and, in Virginia, the Union Army did NOT "lay waste" to the > > land. In fact, it was the south who set their own capital city of fire > to > prevent the north from taking possession of the cotton in the > warehouses. If > it is best to research Native Americans by exploring their lives from > their > own perspective, then it is best to research that nasty war from both > sides > of the conflict. > > Use of the term "southern terrorists" was intended to offset the nasty > terms > already being thrown into the fire. Abraham Lincoln was a good, > god-fearing, > people-loving man who solved a grievous problem in a bad time. He paid > for > his goodness in his untimely death at the hands of a man who refused to > accept the moral mandate of the nation. > > Anne > > > > Anne Pemberton > [log in to unmask] > http://www.erols.com/stevepem > http://www.erols.com/apembert > http://www.educationalsynthesis.org > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sunshine49" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:04 PM > Subject: Re: Long memories > > > > "Southern terrorists"? It's bigoted name calling like that which > causes > > the war to never end. Once people- any people- start rewriting > history- > > any history- for political ends, you're in trouble. > > > > Nancy > > > > ------- > > I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. > > > > --Daniel Boone > > > > > > > > On Feb 14, 2007, at 4:50 PM, Anne Pemberton wrote: > > > >> Henry, > >> > >> Apparently, some people do not perceive the need to "get over it", > they > >> just inflict that flippancy to those they disrespect. > >> > >> Never mind that Virginians "laid waste " to the lives, homes, and > lands > >> of the Native Americans. That was OK. But for Lincoln to respond to > the > >> attack of the southern terrorists, was certainly indecent of him. He > > >> should have just let those terrorists have their way, as they did in > the > >> countryside of Pennsylvania. > >> > >> Anne > >> > >> Anne Pemberton > >> [log in to unmask] > >> http://www.erols.com/stevepem > >> http://www.erols.com/apembert > >> http://www.educationalsynthesis.org > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Wiencek" <[log in to unmask]> > >> To: <[log in to unmask]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:02 PM > >> Subject: Long memories > >> > >> > >> This just in on the AP wire: > >> > >> RICHMOND, Va. > >> > >> Virginia lawmakers killed legislation today that would have made > >> Virginia > >> part of the national commemoration of Abraham Lincoln's 200th > birthday. > >> > >> . . . Robert Lamb of Richmond, a member of the Sons of Confederate > >> Veterans, told the committee that Lincoln ... quote ... "sent armies > > >> into > >> Virginia to lay waste to our land." > >> > >> *** > >> > >> I guess "with malice toward none" doesn't cut it any longer. Do I > hear > >> anyone saying "Get over it"? > >> > >> Henry Wiencek > >> Charlottesville > >> > >> To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the > >> instructions > >> at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > >> To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the > >> instructions > >> at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > > > > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the > instructions > > at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the > instructions > at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions > at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html