I was very happy that Henry commented on this perplexing issue and I agree with you, John, that he did so very well. Was also struck with your own eloquence when you wrote, ", , , historians must try to understand and empathize with victims and victimizers, alike, especially in key watershed events of the past, when the two categories intersected and became indistinguishable." Joanne --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro-*Terms To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html