On balance for the 17th century (the 1600s) I vote for Claiborne too, though not without recognizing Sir William Berkeley's claim to extraordinary influence from the 1640s through 1777 - Claiborne started earlier, 1616 if I recall, and his role in the 20s and 30s was absolutely pivotal . . . As Martin Quitt observed in a conversation long ago, Clairborne was everywhere..... Jon Kukla > Walker was 18th century. > > Fred Fausz > St Louis > > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions > at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > > Dr. Jon Kukla, Executive Vice-President Red Hill - The Patrick Henry National Memorial 1250 Red Hill Road Brookneal, Virginia 24528 www.redhill.org Phone 434-376-2044 or 800-514-7463 Fax 434-376-2647 - M. Lynn Davis, Office Manager - Karen Gorham-Smith, Associate Curator - Edith Poindexter, Curator To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html