All this is very interesting to me, and I hope informative to all the readers, and at least at the moment has not descended into the morass of verbal slings and arrows which we occasionally see. Let's hope that continues. Back to the legend of goodness that surrounds Plymouth, I continue to wrack my brain on the four reasons that Gov. Bradford gave for leaving Holland and going to the New World, without ANY success on where I read them, or what the four were. But out of the mists of my mind, I seem to recall the first reason he gave that they left Holland for the New World had to do with perserving the community as a community which was beginning to be infiltrated by foreign notions there in Holland. And the fourth reason was Religious Freedom. I'm sorry I cannot pin it down any better, but maybe somebody can find that document. Randy Cabell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Bernikow" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 12:32 PM Subject: northern bias >i take it from the discussion so far that no one saw Russell Shorto's >review > of a book about Jamestown some weeks ago in the NYTimes Book Review. > Shorto > says the bias that has made "colonial American history" synonymous with > New > England for so long arose because NE is "easier to sanitize" and fits more > neatly > the myth of America's founding. I agree and have been provoked by the > "sanitizing" to work on a historical fiction about tobacco brides and the > 17th > century= for which I have fruitfully been picking all your brains for some > time now, > gratefully. Louise Bernikow > > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions > at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html