Remember also that Henry Clay was the denounced for his gambling as was JQ Adams (I think billiards was his vice). Clay also drank (Old Crow bourbon). How HAS the republic survived such reprobate leaders? David Kiracofe <By the by, one of those busted at the game was the future president James Madison. Think of him trying to run TODAY. Can't you see the headlines and debate topics. David Kiracofe History Department MAK 1060 Grand Valley State University Allendale, MI 49401 [log in to unmask] To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html