Feel free to stand wherever you wish. There is no reason to let an overwhelming amount of evidence other than the DNA interfere with your beliefs. Paul Finkelman jporeilly1 wrote: >Sir, > >There is no absolute absolute proof of this. A P.C. DNA is not >absolute proof. I stand by T.J. > >A Virginian > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul Finkelman" <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 6:46 PM >Subject: Re: Fw: White slaves > > > > >>As history shows there was little risk; he did it, as did thousands, >>even tens of thousands, of other white masters, with little or no cost. >> What was the risk? There was no t.v., few reporters, and lots more >>privacy than today; Sally could talk to no one, she was a slave. What >>is the "everything" he could lose? His wealth, no. His other slaves, no. >> His fame, no. His nice house, no. His popularity in Virginia (where >>it was done all the time?) no. >> >>Paul Finkelman >> >>jporeilly1 wrote: >> >> >> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "jporeilly1" <[log in to unmask]> >>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:39 PM >>>Subject: Re: White slaves >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I don't know! Maybe it's all a big lie. Did you ever think of >>>>that? Do you really think a man of T.J's position would risk it >>>>all to play with a (dime a dozen) slave girl? Get real. Think about >>>>yourselves. Is >>>>that stuff so sweet and so dear, that you would risk everything >>>>you ever worked for, for your entire life? I know not what course you >>>>boys may take, but as for me, .... Is that stuff really worth the risk >>>>of losing everything? Wake up boys! You wouldn't do it and you know >>>>T.J. wouldn't either! Now, then again, maybe his hot nephew might not be >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>so >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>reluctant, huh? >>>> >>>>A Virginian >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Richard Dixon" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:18 PM >>>>Subject: White slaves >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>The assumption that Sally Hemings was the child of a black women and a >>>>>white man seems accepted. Her children are also assumed to have been >>>>> >>>>> >the > > >>>>>children of a white man. Under the Virginia law at that time, they were >>>>>white.Why then did Jefferson seek permission (also a requirement of >>>>>statute) for Madison and Eston Hemings, freed under the terms of his >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>will, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>to remain in Virginia. It was also provided by statute that the child >>>>> >>>>> >of > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>a >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>slave women was born a slave, If the child were white and freed when an >>>>>adult, why did he not become a "white man" and automatically divested >>>>> >>>>> >of > > >>>>>those requirements that control black freed slaves, i.e., leave the >>>>>Commonwealth unless granted permission to stay by the General Assembly? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Richard E. Dixon >>>>>Clifton, VA 20124-2115 >>>>>703-830-8177 >>>>>fax 703-691-0978 >>>>> >>>>>To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>instructions >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions >>>at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Paul Finkelman >>Chapman Distinguished Professor of Law >>University of Tulsa College of Law >>3120 East 4th Place >>Tulsa, OK 74104-3189 >> >>918-631-3706 (office) >>918-631-2194 (fax) >> >>[log in to unmask] >> >> >> >>To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions >>at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html >> >> > >To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions >at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > > > -- Paul Finkelman Chapman Distinguished Professor of Law University of Tulsa College of Law 3120 East 4th Place Tulsa, OK 74104-3189 918-631-3706 (office) 918-631-2194 (fax) [log in to unmask] To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html