Sir, There is no absolute absolute proof of this. A P.C. DNA is not absolute proof. I stand by T.J. A Virginian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Finkelman" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Fw: White slaves > As history shows there was little risk; he did it, as did thousands, > even tens of thousands, of other white masters, with little or no cost. > What was the risk? There was no t.v., few reporters, and lots more > privacy than today; Sally could talk to no one, she was a slave. What > is the "everything" he could lose? His wealth, no. His other slaves, no. > His fame, no. His nice house, no. His popularity in Virginia (where > it was done all the time?) no. > > Paul Finkelman > > jporeilly1 wrote: > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "jporeilly1" <[log in to unmask]> > >To: <[log in to unmask]> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:39 PM > >Subject: Re: White slaves > > > > > > > > > >>I don't know! Maybe it's all a big lie. Did you ever think of > >>that? Do you really think a man of T.J's position would risk it > >>all to play with a (dime a dozen) slave girl? Get real. Think about > >>yourselves. Is > >>that stuff so sweet and so dear, that you would risk everything > >>you ever worked for, for your entire life? I know not what course you > >>boys may take, but as for me, .... Is that stuff really worth the risk > >>of losing everything? Wake up boys! You wouldn't do it and you know > >>T.J. wouldn't either! Now, then again, maybe his hot nephew might not be > >> > >> > >so > > > > > >>reluctant, huh? > >> > >>A Virginian > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Richard Dixon" <[log in to unmask]> > >>To: <[log in to unmask]> > >>Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:18 PM > >>Subject: White slaves > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>The assumption that Sally Hemings was the child of a black women and a > >>>white man seems accepted. Her children are also assumed to have been the > >>>children of a white man. Under the Virginia law at that time, they were > >>>white.Why then did Jefferson seek permission (also a requirement of > >>>statute) for Madison and Eston Hemings, freed under the terms of his > >>> > >>> > >will, > > > > > >>>to remain in Virginia. It was also provided by statute that the child of > >>> > >>> > >a > > > > > >>>slave women was born a slave, If the child were white and freed when an > >>>adult, why did he not become a "white man" and automatically divested of > >>>those requirements that control black freed slaves, i.e., leave the > >>>Commonwealth unless granted permission to stay by the General Assembly? > >>> > >>> > >>>Richard E. Dixon > >>>Clifton, VA 20124-2115 > >>>703-830-8177 > >>>fax 703-691-0978 > >>> > >>>To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the > >>> > >>> > >instructions > > > > > >>>at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > >To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions > >at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > > > > > > > > -- > Paul Finkelman > Chapman Distinguished Professor of Law > University of Tulsa College of Law > 3120 East 4th Place > Tulsa, OK 74104-3189 > > 918-631-3706 (office) > 918-631-2194 (fax) > > [log in to unmask] > > > > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions > at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html