Not to dispute any turning points but I never see a claim that Kings Mountain was a turning point. That battle was less than an hour and a complete victory for the east TN, sw VA, and western NC settlers here over Ferguson. The "Southern Campaign", strategy ended. Prior to that battle was the Battle of Island Flats in which my ancestor participated in 1776, also pivotal? The British had promised the Cherokee that in return for their loyalty to the Crown, they would be rewarded by the land occupied by settlers when war ended. Dragging Canoe and Old Abram brought a war party to fight the settlers at Island Flats near Long Island of the Holston. The Cherokee were badly beaten (twice) and Dragging Canoe's leg was broken and the Cherokee took themselves out of the War. Had the Cherokee continued belligerent, I have serious doubts if 900 settlers +/- would have left their families and farms unguarded to go fight Ferguson at Kings Mountain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hopewell" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Revolutionary War > Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> > Delivered-To: [log in to unmask] > Received: (qmail 52538 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2002 20:06:47 -0000 > Received: from listlva.lib.va.us (192.131.239.33) by mail2.chartertn.net with SMTP; 17 Jul 2002 20:06:47 -0000 > Received: from lista (listlva.lib.va.us) by listlva.lib.va.us (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:12:47 -0400 > Received: from LISTLVA.LIB.VA.US by LISTLVA.LIB.VA.US (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 9609 for [log in to unmask]; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:12:46 -0400 > Received: from posta.biblioteca.local (lva.lib.va.us) by listlva.lib.va.us (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:12:45 -0400 > Received: by posta.biblioteca.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id <3RG4Q4HF>; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:12:45 -0400 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:12:44 -0400 > Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history <[log in to unmask]> > Sender: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history <[log in to unmask]> > From: John Hopewell <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Revolutionary War > To: [log in to unmask] > Precedence: list > > The Battle of Saratoga was October 1777, when Burgoyne surrendered. It is > considered a turning point in the War for American Independence. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diana Bennett [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 4:16 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Revolutionary War > > > Dear Listers: > > Does anyone know the date when Burgoyne was captured at Saratoga? > > Thanks, Diana > > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions > at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions > at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html > > > > To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html